okay I tried
this and still get user profile service failed argh!!!! My stuff seems to be still on computer but when try to open it it says its either moved or no longer there.....
Hello Mr Needs just seen your reply thankyou for that but unfortunately this was all as it should be... both were already on automatic and had a status of STARTED...... any more ideas I even tried taking the .BAK of end of user registry as instructed and no luck either