Sterck

Im anxious to hear if they mentioned this anywhere in your group? Is anyone
else having issues like this? Its a pretty big hinderance.

Jeff

"wmcmillen" wrote:

> VERY GOOD Info!!!
>
> I have just started with Vista Beta 2 - this problem is alive and well and
> was killing me. Amazingly I had thrown every logical combination that in one
> way or another is discussed through out these postings...
>
> 1) Thought IE7 issue... lowered security, etc - not it.
> 2) User Account Protection - no avail.
> 3) Windows Firewall - disabled from the start - I use a SonicWALL with
> Enhanced OS so I always scratch the Windows Firewall.
> 3) Put in an another NIC - no change.
> 4) Upgraded my memory from 512 to 2GB - no help
> 5) Scratch and reload - hoping for a driver.
> 6) Started searching my SonicWALL logs to see if it would show me any
> reports of blocking or thinking Vista was some sort of "internal port scan"
>
> All of this being done over the last 2 days before I found this post....
> Putting alot more information then necessary here in hopes it will help
> others with key words, etc.
>
> I am running an AMD 3000+, Soltek MB, NVIDIA Chipset, SonicWALL TZ170 with
> Enhanced OS. Base point here is that there is some sort of HUGE FLAW with
> Vista's TCP/IP stack for Internet Bound traffic, Windows update, Websites,
> etc - just like some have said - I let a 5.3MB update try to load for over 15
> hours and it had only made it 19% of the way (I should note these types of
> speed from a person & same machine that can download 220MB files in 14
> minutes from Microsoft). Websites for simple browsing were taking upwards of
> 30 minutes to load.
>
> SOLUTION - Kill your Hardware Firewall, SonicWALL, DLINK, Cisco/Linksys, etc
> - you either have to be able to turn off SPI (By the way the newer generation
> of SonicWALL's go way beyond SPI doing a Deep Packet Inspection). Just for
> the record I could not find a real easy way to turn this off in my SonicWALL
> so my solution as I type this was to go get an old Linksys - put it in place
> and turn off the firewall on the BEFSX41.
>
> Basically I have turned my computer into a sitting duck out on the
> internet... but at least now I have a starting place.
>
> Tomorrow is the holiday, but on Tuesday I will be in a Vista class held by
> Microsoft in Central IL - I will talk to the folks there about it as well as
> get digging through our MSDN & Gold partnership channels. If I find anything
> about a "REAL SOLLUTION" I will pass the info along -
>
> Thank you folks so much for posting the previous informaiton... I was about
> to loose my mind over this one.
>
>
> "Doting Daddy" wrote:
>
> > I have a Linksys RV016. I had to shutdown the firewall functionality
> > completely in order to overcome the problem. Shutting down SPI wasn't nearly
> > enough.
> >
> > "Sterck" wrote:
> >
> > > in reference to this thread:
> > > http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/com...g=en&cr=US&p=1
> > >
> > > I too am having extreamly bad internet performance. This has been common
> > > across many builds, such as beta one. Feb CTP and now Beta 2. First the
> > > background..
> > >
> > > I run a pretty decent LAN at my house. I have a cable modem running 450/5mb
> > > roughly. I have that going into a Cisco 831 router, gigabit managed switch.
> > > I am runnin a win 2k3 server with AD. My network works well. I have 4-5
> > > computers on the network (with random laptops), 2 networked ReplayTV, an Xbox
> > > and PS2.
> > >
> > > On my living room machinge:
> > > AMD 2600+, 1gb ram, GeForce 5900
> > >
> > > I am using this box as my Vista testing site. Vista is slow. It pretty
> > > much idles at 500+mb RAM utilization. But with Beta 2, things (aside from
> > > memory) things are running really decent. I can copy ISO files from my
> > > domain controller to the Vista client in 15 or so seconds.
> > >
> > > My main concern is when I go to request a web server outside of my network,
> > > performance is terrible. Go to Nvidia.com to get the latest Vista graphics
> > > driver, and 1/3 of the page loads and then just keeps trying with no luck.
> > > Wait 30 mins, and come back, still waiting.
> > >
> > > Gettin a critical update from windows update is at 19% after 3-4 hours
> > > (trying to pull down 2.7mb)
> > >
> > > I read the threat that posted above, and it looks like the SPI part is the
> > > cuplrit. This sucks. Its not like Im running a low quality router, my Cisco
> > > 831 is a decent guy and Im running the advanced IOS on it that can do crazy
> > > things like HSRP.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have any work arounds besides dumbing down the router? I cant
> > > imagine what will happen when IT companies around the world try to put Vista
> > > on their corporate lans to find out that web surfing is essentially disabled.
> > >
> > >
> > > MS, any help on this? Its existed on at least the last two major public
> > > builds.
> > >
> > > Jeff
> > >
> > >