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Old 01-23-2007   #14 (permalink)
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Re: Hardware still missing drivers support...

There are so many posts here and i am not sure if mine fits but im trying
anyway. I have a 1 year old Dell XPS600 with Windows XP. I am trying to
simply upgrade it to Vista. During the Compatibility Report part, i get a
install stop error: "You must make the following changes before installing
Windows: Close Windows installation and contact the device manufacturer for
updated driver softwarefor these devices: - SCSI and RAID controllers:
SAMSUNG HD160JJ/P. At the point, i can not go any further. I contacted
SAMSUNG and they informed me that they are not ready to support Vista yet.
They couldn't even give me and ECD. Is there any work-around for this? Is
that my answer about upgrading to Vista?

"BrightEyes025" wrote:

> I just wondering why we as personal users are forced to go out and get all
> new or stick with old. Why cant there be away to make it easyer to obtain the
> new OS with compatable hardware or maybe they could just find away to take
> and make the new feachers work in the old OS if they would make the parant
> controls they have in Vista for XP all versions there would be no reason for
> me to upgrade at this time to vista. However if I whant the control to
> protected my kids than I really should up grade to vista. And if I do that I
> have to buy a new video card and maybe new sound because what i have will not
> work right. Than to have to do it on the other computers this is a costly
> upgrade that I have had to do with the upgrade from 98 to 200 than to xp and
> now vista. Personaly I think its a shame they dont try to find away to
> inprove what they have and yes I would pay for the parantcontrols that vista
> had if they would work in xp and not just the family safe but all the parant
> controls it is the first OS to give me total control even when Im not home.
> And Im sure Im not the only parant that has this problem they whant the
> control but not the expinse becasue its just to much to upgrade 3 personal
> computers thats 3 OS's at anywhere from 190-300 thats to much and that dont
> included what needs to be upgraded in the system its self to work. Just a
> thought
>
> "JW" wrote:
>
> > It is not up to Microsoft to insure that the providers of hardware that can
> > run on Vista or any other operating system provide drivers when Microsoft
> > itself releases the OS itself.
> > According to one press report there were 19,000 drivers contained in the
> > Vista RTM release and another 11,000 were available via Winupdate at the
> > time of the Gold RTM.
> > "I'm pissed" <I'm pissed@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:8A8025FE-631B-40E8-B271-D706B8B8C101@microsoft.com...
> > >I can tell you that Vista b. is released last week for my business.
> > > I have installed the official released version on the latest HP laptops
> > > (NC6320 & NC6400).
> > > Although they nicely recornize the SATA hardware (thank God, XP sucks in
> > > this), almost all other basic lagecy isn't available.
> > > Simply a USB2 hub driver (NO).
> > > My HP 8450 printer (NO)
> > > Intergrated Fingerprint sensor (NO)
> > > Intelli Mouse and Keyboard (NO)
> > > Mass Storage Controller (No)
> > >
> > > and all other external hardware, like IR stick.
> > >
> > > This should all be ready before they provided me the new OS.
> > >
> > > It sucks big time
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "mlai" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Well, I am not even going to talk about "legacy" hardware...... I have a
> > >> HP
> > >> printer C6180 which came out last month.......
> > >> "Gene Fitzpatrick" <gene_fitz@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > >> news:F99B4267-9631-46DF-8F3C-59C5C8DBB69C@microsoft.com...
> > >> > Oh John, Not to sound pessimistic, but mark my words. Many legacy items
> > >> > will not have drivers made for Vista. I know that sounds bad, and it
> > >> > sounds rude, but look at it from a business point of view. As you said
> > >> > earlier, it is just the opportunity that these companies need to push
> > >> > new
> > >> > gear.
> > >> > It is an idea that personally, I have mixed feelings about. I am not a
> > >> > gamer, and until I started using Vista, I was more than happy with my
> > >> > on-board video card. After using vista, I was more or less forced to
> > >> > get a
> > >> > new card, a 7600GS, and I must say, I never understood the importance,
> > >> > but
> > >> > I can tell you that I see the difference in performance.
> > >> > No doubt, there will be some who curse the new expensive upgrades, but
> > >> > I
> > >> > feel most will be pleasently surprised as I was, and impressed. It will
> > >> > also educate folks, like myself on the importance of the idea, "Better
> > >> > gear makes a better computer."
> > >> >
> > >> > But hey, what do I know?
> > >> >
> > >> > "John C." <JohnC@noemail.noemail> wrote in message
> > >> > news:adgcm2ppt21udk9oamq7e5j9gvlnj3nb4e@4ax.com...
> > >> >> It almost seems like it would be in hardware makers' best interest NOT
> > >> >> to release Vista drivers for legacy hardware. This will force users
> > >> >> to buy shiny new "Vista Compatible" hardware. Of course they risk
> > >> >> alienating loyal users at the same time.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Betas of Vista have been available for a year or more, you would think
> > >> >> the hardware makers would have their drivers ready to go at RTM time.
> > >> >> They probably wait until RTM to start development. Even nVidia seems
> > >> >> to be in a sorry state, their Vista video drivers are terrible
> > >> >> performance wise and they don't even have a driver for their flagship
> > >> >> 8800 product.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Total lack of x64 drivers killed XP x64. Hopefully we'll see this
> > >> >> change since just about all new PCs are x64 capable.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 20:31:53 -0800, "JW" <nospam@no.spam> wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >>>Well we will just have to see which manufacturres really care about
> > >> >>>their
> > >> >>>business customer users that are using their hardware on November
> > >> >>>30th.
> > >> >>>"Gene" <gene_fitz(nospam)@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > >> >>>news:3FE1281E-625F-4A8C-8A18-844FBB1A6687@microsoft.com...
> > >> >>>> I'm sorry, I don't really know what to tell you other than to keep
> > >> >>>> checking with the manufacturers.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Sadly, with each new release of an operating system, you will have
> > >> >>>> some
> > >> >>>> hardware and software manufacturers that will go above and beyond.
> > >> >>>> Companies like nVidia who really push the make-ready process, and
> > >> >>>> you
> > >> >>>> have
> > >> >>>> companies like HP, who will drag their feet to the very last
> > >> >>>> minutes,
> > >> >>>> and
> > >> >>>> sometimes too long.
> > >> >>>> Sadly, it is the perrogative of the manufacturer. Microsoft, I am
> > >> >>>> sure
> > >> >>>> is
> > >> >>>> doing all they can to try to help folks, but they are helpless when
> > >> >>>> it
> > >> >>>> comes to the companies who create the drivers.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> I'm in the same boat you are, I still have some equipment begging
> > >> >>>> for
> > >> >>>> drivers, and most of my favorite software is useless right now. I
> > >> >>>> just
> > >> >>>> keep on checking and hoping.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> Wish I could be more help.
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>> "mlai" <mlai@community.nospam> wrote in message
> > >> >>>> news:%23AUmAJgDHHA.1196@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > >> >>>>> That's what we've been doing to all the vendors for the past few
> > >> >>>>> months.
> > >> >>>>> However, a lot of the vendors are holding the lame view that "Vista
> > >> >>>>> is
> > >> >>>>> not out yet and we will support it when it is out or SHORTLY THERE
> > >> >>>>> AFTER". Their way of saying "yeah, we will TRY to support it when
> > >> >>>>> it
> > >> >>>>> is
> > >> >>>>> out or 6 months after......."
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>> "Gene" <gene_fitz(nospam)@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > >> >>>>> news:47814DC2-DD0B-4EF8-AD10-D2084334A758@microsoft.com...
> > >> >>>>>> The best way to remedy this issue is to constantly check your
> > >> >>>>>> hardware
> > >> >>>>>> providers and bug them for Vista drivers. Microsoft can throw in a
> > >> >>>>>> host
> > >> >>>>>> of generic drivers, but there simply is just not enough disk space
> > >> >>>>>> to
> > >> >>>>>> put all hardware drivers, not to mention, it is nearly impossible
> > >> >>>>>> to
> > >> >>>>>> create advanced generic drivers that will work with all equipment.
> > >> >>>>>> On the brighter side though, the fuse is a burning. Time is
> > >> >>>>>> running
> > >> >>>>>> out,
> > >> >>>>>> and the hardware manufacturers have the pressure on. 2 months till
> > >> >>>>>> release date, I have a feeling in the next 30 to 45 days, you will
> > >> >>>>>> see a
> > >> >>>>>> lot of completed drivers showing up all over the place.
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> I know that doesn't help much, but it may offer a little hope. :-)
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>> "mlai" <mlai@community.nospam> wrote in message
> > >> >>>>>> news:O1kRmBeDHHA.4508@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> > >> >>>>>>> Granted Vista has more hardware support than XP at launch......
> > >> >>>>>>> The
> > >> >>>>>>> hardware being supported are mostly legacy stuff and the newer
> > >> >>>>>>> stuffs
> > >> >>>>>>> are not supported as well. I figure that I may start a list of
> > >> >>>>>>> problems:
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> Creative XFi cards:
> > >> >>>>>>> Creative claims that (which is quite true) Directsound hardware
> > >> >>>>>>> acceleration will not work with Vista, and trying to move all the
> > >> >>>>>>> people to OpenAL. Also, DTS decoding will not be supported via
> > >> >>>>>>> the
> > >> >>>>>>> soundcard software. Beta drivers are available but I seriously
> > >> >>>>>>> doubt
> > >> >>>>>>> if they will put out reliable drivers until months after release.
> > >> >>>>>>> I
> > >> >>>>>>> am
> > >> >>>>>>> only saying drivers, none of the applications that came on the
> > >> >>>>>>> installation CDs will work with Vista and they haven't done
> > >> >>>>>>> anything
> > >> >>>>>>> about that yet.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> ATI:
> > >> >>>>>>> AVIVO still missing for Vista. But there is hope as ATI puts out
> > >> >>>>>>> monthly releases pretty routinely.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> Logitech:
> > >> >>>>>>> Vista support is claimed to be somewhat available in December.
> > >> >>>>>>> But
> > >> >>>>>>> no
> > >> >>>>>>> one has even remotely seen or talked about any alpha drivers. So
> > >> >>>>>>> not
> > >> >>>>>>> hopeful at all. In fact, I am getting rid of as much logitech
> > >> >>>>>>> stuff
> > >> >>>>>>> as
> > >> >>>>>>> I possibily can at home....... That includes: webcams,
> > >> >>>>>>> keyboards,
> > >> >>>>>>> mouse, and remotes......
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> Microsoft Hardware:
> > >> >>>>>>> There is hope. Their website puts out beta for desktop sets
> > >> >>>>>>> (Intellitype and Intellipoint) now. For their new Lifecams, MS
> > >> >>>>>>> claims
> > >> >>>>>>> to have beta available in January, which is a month later then
> > >> >>>>>>> previously expected according to a post on the VistaTeamBlog by
> > >> >>>>>>> nWhite.
> > >> >>>>>>> But rumour has it that a beta is available to Vista technical
> > >> >>>>>>> beta
> > >> >>>>>>> testers.........
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> Pantone Huey:
> > >> >>>>>>> I use it to calibrate my screen colors. Sent an email to techsup
> > >> >>>>>>> over
> > >> >>>>>>> there and they sent a response back within 24hrs. Here is the
> > >> >>>>>>> response:
> > >> >>>>>>> Response (JDINGLE) - 11/20/2006 09:26 AM We have tested PANTONE
> > >> >>>>>>> Huey
> > >> >>>>>>> on
> > >> >>>>>>> the latest build of Windows Vista, and have found the product to
> > >> >>>>>>> be
> > >> >>>>>>> fully functional with the exception of the Huey preferences,
> > >> >>>>>>> which
> > >> >>>>>>> do
> > >> >>>>>>> not seem to be accessible.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> We are continuing to test PANTONE Huey, and we are confident that
> > >> >>>>>>> we
> > >> >>>>>>> will have support for this operating system either at the time of
> > >> >>>>>>> its
> > >> >>>>>>> release, or shortly thereafter.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> So there is hope.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> HP AIO Printers:
> > >> >>>>>>> Drivers (only basic drivers) are incorporated for products out
> > >> >>>>>>> before
> > >> >>>>>>> 2nd qtrs 2006. But the new products (like the new Photosmart
> > >> >>>>>>> C6180/5180..... etc), no drivers..... And given their prior
> > >> >>>>>>> track
> > >> >>>>>>> records (like promising drivers and software for XP x64 by Dec 05
> > >> >>>>>>> and
> > >> >>>>>>> delivering in Aug 06). Not having too much faith there.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> Asus:
> > >> >>>>>>> I build my own machines and pretty much all uses Asus
> > >> >>>>>>> motherboards.
> > >> >>>>>>> However, none of their custom software (BIOS update, system
> > >> >>>>>>> overclocking and monitoring "AiSuite" or "AiBooster" comes to
> > >> >>>>>>> mine)
> > >> >>>>>>> have even beta out for vista. The only thing that has beta out
> > >> >>>>>>> is
> > >> >>>>>>> the
> > >> >>>>>>> Wifi-AP software and even that is just putting XP drivers in
> > >> >>>>>>> Vista
> > >> >>>>>>> directories, hardly a beta.......
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> Intel:
> > >> >>>>>>> Probably the best in Vista support. Chipset Utils and IMSM is
> > >> >>>>>>> available for Vista as I type.
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> So what does these all mean to me? I have Vista RTM installed on
> > >> >>>>>>> my
> > >> >>>>>>> Raptor but half of my hardware does not even have beta drivers.
> > >> >>>>>>> So
> > >> >>>>>>> I
> > >> >>>>>>> guess next year will be the REAL BETA period for system builders
> > >> >>>>>>> like
> > >> >>>>>>> me........
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>> The above only contains hardware vendors that pertains to my
> > >> >>>>>>> setups.
> > >> >>>>>>> YMMV depending on what kind of hardware and how new your
> > >> >>>>>>> platforms
> > >> >>>>>>> are...... BTW, Vista runs very nicely in VMWare 5.5.3.......
> > >> >>>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>>
> > >> >>>>
> > >> >>>
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>

> >
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