Puppy Breath

I've just been using Defender, which is in Vista already and free. I never
get any malware.


"Mr. Freeze" <mrfreeze1@charter.net> wrote in message
news:518D9589-2102-4869-929A-154B2EAD73B6@microsoft.com...
> Yes, I know only one firewall and one antivirus at a time, I was only
> stating that I have those programs. I still haven't found the first
> addware/spyware/malware, nothing using vista and am now using Windows Live
> One Care, I guess that's a good thing. Also I know IE7 has a protected
> mode, I'm just surprised that I'm not getting any kinda report that that
> spyware etc..... has been blocked or qaurantened. You'd think I would be
> able to find that information somewhere on this computer with
> Vista/LiveOneCare if it was doing the job. It just leaves you with a
> vulnerable feeling not being able to find out what's been blocked or if
> it's working when you go to some sites you know will give you addware and
> don't even get any kinda report or warning saying that's it's been blocked
> etc.....
>
> "cquirke (MVP Windows shell/user)" <cquirkenews@nospam.mvps.org> wrote in
> message newsk8ot25qf0tmeh7nc22kd3b04n4dlprhfd@4ax.com...
>> On Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:18:30 -0500, "Mr. Freeze"
>>
>>>I have a brand new computer that came with Windows Vista Home Basic. I
>>>also
>>>purchased Windows Live One Care "Which I am told from a tech. that comes
>>>with Windows Defender built in".
>>
>> Vista has Defender built in; dunno if One Care enhances it. One Care
>> brings the av to the party, tho.
>>
>>>I keep scanning and scanning and scanning and nothing comes up
>>>"Nothing at all, no Qaurantine's, no problems reported
>>
>> Could be good news. But I always wonder if it's worth using the same
>> tool that was supposed to block things on entry, to look and see if
>> these things have got into the same system.
>>
>> I suspect you have the same misgivings and want to install and use
>> additional non-resident tools for on-denmand scanning?
>>
>>>I haven't installed any of my other spyware protection programs because
>>>I wanted to give Live One Care a chance. I have
>>>Spycatcher/F-secure/Norton
>>>and many others but I am kinda concerned untill they are announced as
>>>being 100% comptible to run them because I don't want to run anything
>>>that is going to misread a program that might be important.
>>
>> You know the rules; never install more than one resident tool type at
>> a time - i.e. use only one resident av, one resident firewall, 0 or 1
>> resident antispyware, etc. So what you want to do is add tools that
>> are either on-denmad only, or can be constrained to work as on-demand
>> tools only. I would flee screaming from Norton anything (much as I
>> loved Peter Norton in the DOS days, those days are gone, and Peter
>> left the playing field ages ago anyway).
>>
>>>I think this either means Vista and Live One care are preventing the
>>>spyware
>>>and addware from being installed and just not telling me that it is
>>>blocking
>>>it or my computer is infested with the stuff.
>>
>>>Could it be that a lot of the addware stuff just isn't Vista compatible
>>>yet?
>>
>> :-)
>>
>> I use AdAware, Spybot scanners and Spyware Blaster as "vaccinator" in
>> Vista32. I could use A Squared and AVG Antispyware (ex-Ewido) as
>> well; these two may be resident in the sense that they update
>> themselves, but require the paid versions to be active as resident
>> scanners (which you don't want right now).
>>
>> Of these, AVG may be the best. A Squared's good, too, though a bit
>> less stable perhaps, and more prone to false-positives. Both tend to
>> find things that the first two missed.
>>
>> On pure on-demand av, I'd suggest Trend SysClean (download afresh when
>> you need to use it, both engine and sigs) and Bit Defender, if they
>> still offer their free on-demand-only scanner. Like AVG AS, that will
>> update itself from a SysTray icon, but not scan on access.
>>
>> If you're OK with CLI scanners, then you can build a tier of on-demand
>> CLI scanners that are properly serialized and parameterized via a
>> batch file. You'd then integrate that into the UI in various ways
>> (rt-click action for directories and drives, SendTo target for
>> arbitrary files, overnight Task to scan subtree of incoming material,
>> etc.) to more easily wield as an on-demand "Fist of Death [TM]"
>>
>> Suitable Win32 (as opposed to DOS) CLI av can be found, and may
>> include those from McAfee, Sophos, F-Prot, Kaspersky, etc. The update
>> process for these will be severely manual ;-)
>>
>>
>>
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>> Saws are too hard to use.
>> Be easier to use!
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