Mark Bourne

bp wrote:
>
> "Mark Bourne" wrote:
>
>> bp wrote:
>>> "Keith Miller MVP" wrote:
>>>
>>>> First & foremost:
>>>>
>>>> 'Organize' -> 'Folder & Search Options' -> 'View' tab (or Alt+T -> 'Folder
>>>> Options')
>>>>
>>>> Make sure that 'Remember each folder's view settings is checked'
>>>>
>>>> As for a specific folder forgetting it's view, folder views are unique based
>>>> on the namespace path to the folder -- the saved view for
>>>> 'Desktop\UserName\Pictures' has no bearing on the view of
>>>> 'Desktop\Computer\c:\Users\UserName\Pictures', it can remember different
>>>> view settings -- even use a different template. So make sure that's not the
>>>> cause of the discrepancy that you are seeing.
>>> THEN WHAT GOOD IS THE OPTION TO SET ALL FOLDER TO CURRENT VIEW IF IT ISN"T
>>> GOING TO LISTEN?!
>>>
>> They above is about how each *individual* folder's view is remembered,
>> not about setting all folders to the current view. As I understand it,
>> when you set all folders OF THE SAME TYPE to the current view, it should
>> clear any settings remembered per-folder.
>>
>> The bit that seems to keep tripping people up (understandably, as the
>> change isn't exactly obvious) is that the button which used to set ALL
>> folders to the current view now only sets all folders OF THE SAME TYPE
>> to the current view. And who actually carefully reads the text next to a
>> button they've been using for the last 7 years?
>
>
>
> Yeah I noticed that yesterday But I don't want "types" either I just want a
> folder to open and have file names in detail view FOR ALL OF MY FOLDERS
> Is there a place to set the "types" to a default view?
>
Keith's registry hack (if you delete the key he mentioned first) seems
to set most, if not all, folders to "All Items". Even Documents,
Pictures, etc were set to "All Items" rather than their default when I
tried it.

> I can't tell if they are really changing until I can set them all.
> Where does it say in a folder what type you are viewing? How do I know when
> a folder is of a different "type" ?

Open the folder, and either:
- right click in and empty space and select "Customize This Folder"
- click "Organize", then "Properties" and select the "Customize" tab
- if you have the menus shown, View > Customize This Folder
You can then see and change the template used for the current folder.

> How many types are there?

5 for most folders - All Items, Documents, Pictures and Videos, Music
Details, Music Icons. It seems that an additional "Contacts" template is
available when you are in your contacts folder. I'm not sure what's
special about this folder that makes the extra template visible, nor if
any other folders have a similar feature.

> etc etc.
> Why would they make something so simple so complicated? ;-)
>
I guess they're trying to make it easy to apply different views to
folders containing different types of content. eg. you may want a
thumbnail view when browsing photos, but details view when looking at
documents. Like you, I've previously always had everything in details
view, but I can see the advantage of the "Pictures" folder showing
thumbnails etc. Personally, I'm not sure if I like it or not either yet.
I might start liking it more if it didn't keep randomly changing the
views ;o) I've yet to see if the registry hack has fixed that.

I was also thinking it might also be nice if I could define my own
templates rather than being stuck with the 5 provided, and delete the
ones I don't use (maybe all except "All Items" in your case). Then
again, maybe that is possible and I just don't know how...

>> That, however, isn't the problem I'm having. The problem I have is that
>> the view or even type of individual folders keeps changing, apparently
>> at random, without me doing anything to change it. Maybe because of the
>> namespace path thing Keith mentioned, but I don't think that is it.
>> Maybe the content-sniffing, and I'll be trying the registry hack Keith
>> suggested to stop that.
>>
>>> Stupid VISTA
>>>> To obtain some consistency, you might want to consider using 'Apply to
>>>> Folders'. 'Apply to Folders' in Vista works on a per-template basis.
>>>> Different
>>>> defaults can be saved for 'All Items', 'Documents', 'Pictures & Video', etc.
>>>> You need to be sure of what template the current folder is using before
>>>> using 'Apply to Folders'.
>>>>
>>> I just want a stinking DETAIL view for EVERYTHING how is that done?
>>>
>> Find a folder of each type (or use one folder and change it to each type
>> in turn), change its view and apply to all folders of that type. By
>> default, detail view for "Documents" contains different columns than
>> detail view for "All Items" etc., so you might want to change the
>> columns to what you want as well before applying to all similar folders.
>> Maybe there's an easier way, but there's only 5 different types to change.
>>
>> If you don't want the view of individual folders remembered, you may
>> also want to turn OFF the option to "remember each folder's view settings".
>>
>>>> This also means that the default will only be applied to folders of that
>>>> type.
>>>>
>>>> As for over-zealous content-sniffing (forcing the Pictures template on a
>>>> folder), you can kill that with the following regedit. It will override
>>>> autosense & set the template for any folder without a saved view as 'All
>>>> Items'.
>>>>
>>>> Copy the text between the lines below into notepad & save as a .reg file.
>>>> Watch out for line wrap -- [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\...\Shell] is all one line,
>>>> there is a space between 'Local' and 'Settings'.
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
>>>>
>>>> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Classes\Local
>>>> Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\AllFolders\Shell]
>>>> "FolderType"="NotSpecified"
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Merging the .reg file will set the 'All Items' template for any folders that
>>>> don't currently have a view saved with a different template. You can clear
>>>> all saved views by deleting the
>>>>
>>>> "HKCU\Software\Classes\Local Settings\Software\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags"
>>>>
>>>> key BEFORE merging the .reg file. If any folders open with a different
>>>> template after clearing the 'Bags' key & merging the .reg file, they most
>>>> likely have a template specified via their desktop.ini file.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Good Luck,
>>>>
>>>> Keith
>>>> Microsoft MVP [Windows XP Shell/User]
>>>>
>>>> "Mark Bourne" <Mark@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:uaN973nfHHA.1216@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Using Explorer on Windows Vista Business, I've noticed that the folder
>>>>> view settings keep randomly changing.
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, one folder yesterday was set to "Details" view. Today, I
>>>>> opened the folder and it is in "Tiles" view. The main "Computer" view
>>>>> yesterday was "Tiles", grouped by drive type, today it is in "List view
>>>>> and not grouped. I have also had some folders even randomly changing type
>>>>> ("All Items", "Pictures and Videos", "Music Icons" etc.) This was
>>>>> particularly annoying when it decided that the root of the C: drive was a
>>>>> music folder, as there is no option to "Customise" this folder and put it
>>>>> back to "All Items"!
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't do anything to change the view of these folders, nor anything
>>>>> which would affect the view of all folders (ie. clicking "Apply to
>>>>> Folders" in the folder options).
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know why this happens, and what I can do to stop it happening?
>>>>> I understand there are some registry keys which control this, but I don't
>>>>> see why they would keep randomly changing like this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Mark.