You're right again, it should prompt you for permission when you try
to send a message instead of just failing.
And there's no good reason why it doesn't.
In fact, I noticed this myself during the beta and reported it as a
bug, but I guess there were bigger problems to worry about.
--
-JB
Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell
Windows Vista Support FAQ -
http://www.jimmah.com
On Tue, 15 May 2007 12:16:01 -0700, Fire balls
<Fireballs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>That is true and like I said there was probably some other unforseen problems
>that I didn't think of. Really I'm very inpressed with vista and the
>security! Aslo with all the problem reporting built into it and the
>helpfullness of it compared to xp. With what you said in mind though it
>wouldn't have been a problem if it has asked me if I had the rights when I
>tried to send a message (like it does when you click on show all processes) I
>know there is a lot to work out in a new OS and agin I think a good job was
>done but on something like haveing it ask instead of haveing to do a "work
>around" persay would be much easyer for the end use I think then haveing to
>know you have to go here and do this and what not yo get it to work instead
>of a box that pops up and says are you who you say you are. just a thought
>agin. thanks!
>
>William Moore
>
>"Jimmy Brush" wrote:
>
>> You are right, it would be much more convienent if one could "always
>> trust" a program.
>>
>> Unfortunately, there are "hidden consequences" to allowing that.
>>
>> Basically, if the computer let you "trust" programs so that they never
>> prompted, the game is up - the bad guys just won - because they could
>> use those trusted programs to take over your computer.
>>
>> The purpose of these prompts is not to "save you from yourself" ...
>> rather, their purpose is to make sure that YOU are the one that is
>> trying to perform these administrative actions, as opposed to some
>> malicious program that is trying to do these things behind your back.
>>
>> Unfortunately, the only way the computer can really know for sure that
>> you are the one doing these things is by asking you thru the prompt,
>> but I sincerely hope that a less obtrusive means of doing this will be
>> found in the future.
>>
>> - JB
>> Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell
>>
>> On Mon, 14 May 2007 21:19:00 -0700, Fire balls
>> <Fireballs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Thanks that of corse solved the problem thanks and sorry for the dumb
>> >question I should have though of that. but I am also wondering if there was
>> >anyway that it would recognize that automatically in the future... that can
>> >be really annoying I understand the need for things to be secure but there
>> >should be a way for you to have rights that can be accessed when you log on
>> >that don't have to ask for everything and where you can add trusted
>> >programs... just a thought I'm sure there are unforseen things that I don't
>> >know about that would be a problem with that but if not I'm sure many people
>> >would appreciate a feature like that and hopefully there would be a way to do
>> >that like ask for adminrights when adding such a program to a trusted list or
>> >a list of programs or .exe that are always run as adminrights on that
>> >account. Just a thought maybe a patch or service pack could add that. Agin
>> >thanks for all the help.
>> >
>> >William Moore
>> >
>> >"Jimmy Brush" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> You need to transition task manager into "admin mode" in order for
>> >> this to work.
>> >>
>> >> An application can only use your admin powers if it prompts for your
>> >> permission, even when you are logged in with an administrator.
>> >>
>> >> There are a few ways to do this:
>> >>
>> >> 1- When opening task manager, right-click it and click Run As
>> >> Administrator
>> >>
>> >> 2- From an open task manager, click the Processes tab, and then click
>> >> Show processes from all users
>> >>
>> >> Once you have gone through the "Windows needs your permission to
>> >> continue" prompt, task manager is running in admin mode, and you will
>> >> no longer receive the errors.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, 14 May 2007 13:14:00 -0700, Fire balls
>> >> <Fireballs@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >I'm runnig windows vista business 32bit. I am loged on as an administrator.
>> >> >when I go to task manager and go to the users tab and click on a user that is
>> >> >loged on and try and send a message that user it errs out and says I don't
>> >> >have the right to do it. (the acount I am alos messaging is an administrator
>> >> >and I have also tried to do it to a standard user as well with the same
>> >> >resultes) how can this be fixed?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> - JB
>> >> Microsoft MVP - Windows Shell/User
>> >> Windows Vista Support Faq http://www.jimmah.com/vista/
>> >>
>>