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Old 05-29-2007   #8 (permalink)
Chuck


 
 

Re: Networking Windows XP and Vista

On Tue, 29 May 2007 19:39:00 -0700, Cerdito <Cerdito@discussions.microsoft.com>
wrote:

>I'd start by removing IPX/SPX from Girls, and restarting both computers. If
>> that doesn't help, leave IPX/SPX out still, disable IPV6 on JoseLuis, and
>> restart both computers.
>>
>> If that doesn't help, rerun both diagnostics, and post updated logs (all 4
>> please), and we'll do more diagnostics.

>
>
>"Chuck" wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 27 May 2007 14:50:00 -0700, Cerdito <Cerdito@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Wed, 23 May 2007 08:42:01 -0700, Cerdito <Cerdito@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >"Chuck" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On Mon, 21 May 2007 09:28:04 -0700, Cerdito <Cerdito@discussions.microsoft.com>
>> >> >> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> >Hi, I have 2 computers connected by Ethernet cables to a router that in turns
>> >> >> >connects to a ROADRUNNER cable for Internet access.
>> >> >> >I have downloaded and installed the LLTD in the XP computer. Internet access
>> >> >> >works fine on both computers but they cannot see each other. When I do a full
>> >> >> >map view in the Vista machine I do see the second computer icon but I cannot
>> >> >> >access it, nor the printer connected to it.
>> >> >> >I set up my Vista network to 'Private' and turn on file sharing. I'm using
>> >> >> >the same name for the network (WORKGROUP) on both computers. I'm using a 3
>> >> >> >year old Cisco router (wired of course) but even though it is not ViiV
>> >> >> >technology ready it must be good since both computers can access the Internet.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >Please help!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Visibility problems are frequently a joint symptom of the NetBT settings, and a
>> >> >> personal firewall.
>> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/07/advanced-windows-networking-using.html>
>> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/0...ing-using.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And check the router for an "Isolation Mode" setting.
>> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/your-personal-firewall-can-either-help.html>
>> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...ther-help.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Then look at "browstat status" and "ipconfig /all" from each computer, and
>> >> >> diagnose the problem. Read this article, and linked articles, and follow
>> >> >> instructions precisely (download browstat!):
>> >> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/troubleshooting-network-neighborhood.html#AskingForHelp>
>> >> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...#AskingForHelp
>> >>
>> >> >Chuck, I set up the Registry as you indicate in your article with the
>> >> >DCHpBroadcast flag set to 0 in the Vista computer (since the XP does not have
>> >> >it). I check all my settings in both computers and they look fine. However,
>> >> >something is still not working. Running 'ipconfig /all' told me I have a
>> >> >'Hybrid' node type. Could that be the problem? How do I change it to
>> >> >'Broadcast'?
>> >> >Also, in the XP computer I changed the workgroup to 'WORKGROUP' to match the
>> >> >Vista computer but I noticed somehow it reverses to 'MSHOME' afterwards.
>> >> >Could that be the reason.
>> >> >Your help is greatly appreciated!
>> >>
>> >> Hi Cerdito,
>> >>
>> >> Node types Broadcast and Hybrid are compatible, so don't worry there.
>> >> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/address-resolution-on-lan.html>
>> >> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...on-on-lan.html
>> >>
>> >> I'm not sure about the workgroup name changing. If everything is working,
>> >> though, and you have 2 separate workgroups, you should be able to see the other
>> >> workgroup under Entire Network - Microsoft Windows Network.
>> >>
>> >> If both computers can access the Internet, don't worry about the DHCP broadcast
>> >> issue, apparently that's not a problem with your router.
>> >>
>> >> Did you check the NetBT setting, and the personal firewalls? If so, post the
>> >> browstat and ipconfig logs here, and we'll look for clues.

>>
>> >Chuck, my XP computer is called GIRLS. Here is the results of browstat status:
>> >Status for domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkNb
>> > Browsing is active on domain.
>> > Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Using \\GIRLS
>> > Master browser is running build 2600
>> > 1 backup servers retrieved from master GIRLS
>> > \\GIRLS
>> > There are 1 servers in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkNb
>> > There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkNb
>> >
>> >
>> >Status for domain MSHOME on transport
>> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{5D7BCE0D-695E-4C8E-A54F-098203B057E8}
>> > Browsing is active on domain.
>> > Master browser name is: GIRLS
>> > Master browser is running build 2600
>> > 1 backup servers retrieved from master GIRLS
>> > \\GIRLS
>> > There are 2 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
>> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{5D7BCE0D-695E-4C8E-A54F-098203B057E8}
>> > There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
>> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{5D7BCE0D-695E-4C8E-A54F-098203B057E8}
>> >
>> >
>> >Status for domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkIpx
>> > Browsing is active on domain.
>> > Master name cannot be determined from GetAdapterStatus. Using \\GIRLS
>> > Master browser is running build 2600
>> > 1 backup servers retrieved from master GIRLS
>> > \\GIRLS
>> > There are 1 servers in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkIpx
>> > There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport \Device\NwlnkIpx
>> >
>> >here is the result of ipconfig /all:
>> >
>> >Windows IP Configuration
>> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Girls
>> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
>> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Unknown
>> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : socal.rr.com
>> >
>> >Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : socal.rr.com
>> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast
>> >Ethernet NIC
>> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-0A-E6-19-71-A4
>> > Dhcp Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>> > IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.100
>> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.75.164.90
>> > 66.75.164.89
>> > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, May 27, 2007 2:04:53 PM
>> > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, May 28, 2007 2:04:53 PM
>> >
>> >For the second computer, \\JOSELUIS, which is the Vista Home Premium edition
>> >computer, here are the results:
>> >
>> >Status for domain MSHOME on transport
>> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E5139195-F699-4BDC-9987-58A6DB6E92EA}
>> > Browsing is active on domain.
>> > Master browser name is: GIRLS
>> >Could not connect to registry, error = 53 Unable to determine build
>> >of browser master: 53
>> > \\\\GIRLS . Version:05.01 Flags: 51203 NT POTENTIAL MASTER
>> > 1 backup servers retrieved from master GIRLS
>> > \\GIRLS
>> > There are 2 servers in domain MSHOME on transport
>> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E5139195-F699-4BDC-9987-58A6DB6E92EA}
>> > There are 1 domains in domain MSHOME on transport
>> >\Device\NetBT_Tcpip_{E5139195-F699-4BDC-9987-58A6DB6E92EA}
>> >
>> >and ipconfgi /all:
>> >Windows IP Configuration
>> >
>> > Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : JoseLuis
>> > Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
>> > Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
>> > IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> > WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
>> > DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : socal.rr.com
>> >
>> >Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
>> >
>> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : socal.rr.com
>> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection
>> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-D1-3C-FD-6A
>> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
>> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>> > Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::8ae:2bad:48e9:5a15%8(Preferred)
>> > IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.102(Preferred)
>> > Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
>> > Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Sunday, May 27, 2007 2:05:04 PM
>> > Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, May 28, 2007 2:05:04 PM
>> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> > DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
>> > DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 201333201
>> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.75.164.90
>> > 66.75.164.89
>> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
>> >
>> >Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 6:
>> >
>> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
>> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface
>> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 02-00-54-55-4E-01
>> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>> > IPv6 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
>> >2001:0:4136:e390:20c1:1634:3f57:fe99(Preferred)
>> > Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::20c1:1634:3f57:fe99%9(Preferred)
>> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : ::
>> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>> >
>> >Tunnel adapter Local Area Connection* 7:
>> >
>> > Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : socal.rr.com
>> > Description . . . . . . . . . . . : isatap.socal.rr.com
>> > Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-00-00-00-00-00-00-E0
>> > DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
>> > Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
>> > Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::5efe:192.168.1.102%10(Preferred)
>> > Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
>> > DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 66.75.164.90
>> > 66.75.164.89
>> > NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Disabled
>> >
>> >
>> >Thank you very much for your help.
>> >
>> >Jose Luis

>>
>> Jose,
>>
>> OK, you have 2 challenges there. As I write about so much, Windows Networking
>> can be so simple generally, but so complex occasionally. One of the times when
>> it's complex is when you have a different protocol stack on various computers.
>> That's like being in a party where everybody there speaks a different language,
>> yet some people can listen in multiple languages, and translate internally.
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/05/fix-network-problems-but-clean-up.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2005/0...-clean-up.html
>> <http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/10/network-language-that-your-computer.html>
>> http://nitecruzr.blogspot.com/2006/1...-computer.html
>>
>> I'd start by removing IPX/SPX from Girls, and restarting both computers. If
>> that doesn't help, leave IPX/SPX out still, disable IPV6 on JoseLuis, and
>> restart both computers.
>>
>> If that doesn't help, rerun both diagnostics, and post updated logs (all 4
>> please), and we'll do more diagnostics.


>Finally! I've got it.
>I followed your suggestions and removed IPX/SPX from the XP computer plus
>disable IPV6 on the Vista computer. After restarting both computers the
>problem persisted.
>Then I came across your article regarding the IRPStackSize on your website.
>I increased it to 20 and voila, the network is now working. I can see both
>computers and access the shared printer.
>Thank you very much, Chuck. I could have not done it without your help.
>
>Jose


You're quite welcome, Jose. Congrats on your persistence, and thanks for the
feedback.

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