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Old 07-13-2007   #5 (permalink)
Stephan Rose
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Re: Bad Ubuntu

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 12:11:10 +0200, Alias wrote:

> NOT Alias - Thank GOD wrote:
>> Ubuntu is often hailed as the future for the GNU/Linux desktop and even
>> for the server. This page is dedicated to exploring the downsides to
>> Ubuntu.
>>
>> No established release policy
>> Once concerned with a production-ready release every 6 months, Ubuntu
>> have now decided that some releases will be "LTS" - long term supported.
>> It's hard to depend on a distribution with no set release policy.


Huh?

Here is the release policy:

LTS Releases are supported for 3 years (5 years server). All other releases
have 1 year support. When the current LTS expires, a new release is made
available with LTS support.

What's so terribly difficult to understand about this?

>>
>> You don't get the whole of Debian
>> Whilst the core packages are supported, this is only a few hundred of
>> the 20,000 available in the Debian repositories. The rest are not
>> guaranteed to work, and indeed many don't.


Ubuntu is not Debian, it is only based on Debian. Want full debian? Run
Debian.

And on that note, I've yet to come across any reputable software that does
not work under Ubuntu. I personally really couldn't give a rats ass if
some guy has some odd-ball application in Debian repositories that maybe 20
people in this world use that doesn't work under Ubuntu.

>>
>> Jumping the gun
>> You get a very hot off the press Gnome and Evolution suite with Ubuntu,
>> even in the LTS version. There are bugs that don't get fixed on the
>> first Gnome and Evolution major releases. You know the score, 2.00 some
>> bugs, 2.01 getting better, 2.02 finally fixed. But with Ubuntu you get
>> the 2.00 release for it's cutting edge package. These don't get fixed
>> up even in the LTS releases.


Yes Ubuntu stays on a fairly cutting edge and up to date. That's why I
like it and use it. But hey, if you go by your logic, what are you doing
with Vista? Shouldn't you be running Windows95? Win98 might be a little
risky for you, it's a newer version and it might have a bug!!

Bugs do get fixed by the way as bugfixes become available. Oh and on that
note, Gnome is perfectly stable...Though I do admit that once every month
Evolution *might* crash on startup. I can live with that.

>>
>> Easy installer or working installer
>> The installer for Ubuntu is in a state that most projects would
>> consider experimental. Your mileage may vary.


Has worked very well for me every time so far. The only time I've not used
the graphical installer is on a laptop that just wasn't powerful enough
to run the live CD due to memory constraints. Less than 256 megs
is a little low. Hardware problem, not a software problem. Text installer
of alternate CD resolved that just fine and more memory has been ordered. =)

Oh and on that note, Ubuntu runs quite well even with less than 256 megs
on that machine. Better than XP did anyway...

>>
>> Non-Free
>> Ubuntu have been toying with the idea of including non-free software.
>> Whilst other distributions like Debian do this, they have a very clear
>> cut policy of not having such software on their installers, and making
>> the non-free repositories a separate choice inclusion. There is no such
>> division in Ubuntu repositories.


Actually there is such a division in Ubuntu repositories.

What do you think the "Multiverse" repositories, which can be turned off,
are for?

And come in October this year, there will even be an additional release of
Ubuntu that is open-source only for those who do not want any non-free
software of any kind. Is that division enough?

>>
>> Lack of Multimedia
>> So, you may be lumbered non-free stuff you don't want, but when it
>> comes to getting multimedia codecs (including those openly licensed but
>> patent encumbered in some countries), Ubuntu is not so well supported
>> as Debian. The repositories at http://debian-multimedia.org are a one
>> stop shop for Debian multimedia, but don't support Ubuntu.


Huh? What are you smoking now?

I currently have some DivX music videos playing on my TV. Later today I
will be watching a CSS protected DVD. Yesterday I was playing some real
media video files.

I have absolutely zero need for debian-multimedia.org. Didn't even know
the site existed until you mentioned it matter of fact.

You seriously need to get your so called "facts" straight...


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