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07-13-2007

Stephan Rose wrote:
> On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:47:08 +0200, Alias wrote:
>
>> Frank wrote:
>>> Alias wrote:
>>>> Frank wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Alias wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> NOT Alias - Thank GOD wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ubuntu is often hailed as the future for the GNU/Linux desktop and
>>>>>>> even for the server. This page is dedicated to exploring the
>>>>>>> downsides to Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No established release policy
>>>>>>> Once concerned with a production-ready release every 6 months,
>>>>>>> Ubuntu have now decided that some releases will be "LTS" - long
>>>>>>> term supported. It's hard to depend on a distribution with no set
>>>>>>> release policy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You don't get the whole of Debian
>>>>>>> Whilst the core packages are supported, this is only a few hundred
>>>>>>> of the 20,000 available in the Debian repositories. The rest are
>>>>>>> not guaranteed to work, and indeed many don't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jumping the gun
>>>>>>> You get a very hot off the press Gnome and Evolution suite with
>>>>>>> Ubuntu, even in the LTS version. There are bugs that don't get
>>>>>>> fixed on the first Gnome and Evolution major releases. You know the
>>>>>>> score, 2.00 some bugs, 2.01 getting better, 2.02 finally fixed. But
>>>>>>> with Ubuntu you get the 2.00 release for it's cutting edge package.
>>>>>>> These don't get fixed up even in the LTS releases.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Easy installer or working installer
>>>>>>> The installer for Ubuntu is in a state that most projects would
>>>>>>> consider experimental. Your mileage may vary.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Non-Free
>>>>>>> Ubuntu have been toying with the idea of including non-free
>>>>>>> software. Whilst other distributions like Debian do this, they have
>>>>>>> a very clear cut policy of not having such software on their
>>>>>>> installers, and making the non-free repositories a separate choice
>>>>>>> inclusion. There is no such division in Ubuntu repositories.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lack of Multimedia
>>>>>>> So, you may be lumbered non-free stuff you don't want, but when it
>>>>>>> comes to getting multimedia codecs (including those openly licensed
>>>>>>> but patent encumbered in some countries), Ubuntu is not so well
>>>>>>> supported as Debian. The repositories at
>>>>>>> http://debian-multimedia.org are a one stop shop for Debian
>>>>>>> multimedia, but don't support Ubuntu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> All lies.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alias
>>>>>
>>>>> Prove they are all lies or STFU!
>>>>> Frank
>>>>
>>>> Prove they aren't or STFU!
>>>>
>>>> Alias
>>> You idiot! You're the one calling them lies now YOU prove they're not or
>>> STFU!
>>> Well...!
>>> Frank
>> Well nothing. They're lies. What makes you think I care if you believe
>> me or not?
>>
>
> Maybe the fact that neither one of you two can STFU??? I mean seriously!
> The both of you need to go do that! If you got something constructive to
> say, say it. But this constant and childish "You shut up" "no you shut up"
> "no you shut up" "you are a liar" "no you are a liar" "no you are" "no you
> are" back and forth between the two of you is really just stupid.
>
> If you don't have something useful to say, just don't say anything. Is
> that really so hard? Or at least take your childish games to e-mail.
>

I'll try to control myself. It *is* silly.

Alias

07-13-2007	#16 (permalink)
Alias n/a posts	Re: Bad Ubuntu Stephan Rose wrote: > On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:47:08 +0200, Alias wrote: > >> Frank wrote: >>> Alias wrote: >>>> Frank wrote: >>>> >>>>> Alias wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> NOT Alias - Thank GOD wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ubuntu is often hailed as the future for the GNU/Linux desktop and >>>>>>> even for the server. This page is dedicated to exploring the >>>>>>> downsides to Ubuntu. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> No established release policy >>>>>>> Once concerned with a production-ready release every 6 months, >>>>>>> Ubuntu have now decided that some releases will be "LTS" - long >>>>>>> term supported. It's hard to depend on a distribution with no set >>>>>>> release policy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You don't get the whole of Debian >>>>>>> Whilst the core packages are supported, this is only a few hundred >>>>>>> of the 20,000 available in the Debian repositories. The rest are >>>>>>> not guaranteed to work, and indeed many don't. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Jumping the gun >>>>>>> You get a very hot off the press Gnome and Evolution suite with >>>>>>> Ubuntu, even in the LTS version. There are bugs that don't get >>>>>>> fixed on the first Gnome and Evolution major releases. You know the >>>>>>> score, 2.00 some bugs, 2.01 getting better, 2.02 finally fixed. But >>>>>>> with Ubuntu you get the 2.00 release for it's cutting edge package. >>>>>>> These don't get fixed up even in the LTS releases. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Easy installer or working installer >>>>>>> The installer for Ubuntu is in a state that most projects would >>>>>>> consider experimental. Your mileage may vary. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Non-Free >>>>>>> Ubuntu have been toying with the idea of including non-free >>>>>>> software. Whilst other distributions like Debian do this, they have >>>>>>> a very clear cut policy of not having such software on their >>>>>>> installers, and making the non-free repositories a separate choice >>>>>>> inclusion. There is no such division in Ubuntu repositories. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lack of Multimedia >>>>>>> So, you may be lumbered non-free stuff you don't want, but when it >>>>>>> comes to getting multimedia codecs (including those openly licensed >>>>>>> but patent encumbered in some countries), Ubuntu is not so well >>>>>>> supported as Debian. The repositories at >>>>>>> http://debian-multimedia.org are a one stop shop for Debian >>>>>>> multimedia, but don't support Ubuntu. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> All lies. >>>>>> >>>>>> Alias >>>>> >>>>> Prove they are all lies or STFU! >>>>> Frank >>>> >>>> Prove they aren't or STFU! >>>> >>>> Alias >>> You idiot! You're the one calling them lies now YOU prove they're not or >>> STFU! >>> Well...! >>> Frank >> Well nothing. They're lies. What makes you think I care if you believe >> me or not? >> > > Maybe the fact that neither one of you two can STFU??? I mean seriously! > The both of you need to go do that! If you got something constructive to > say, say it. But this constant and childish "You shut up" "no you shut up" > "no you shut up" "you are a liar" "no you are a liar" "no you are" "no you > are" back and forth between the two of you is really just stupid. > > If you don't have something useful to say, just don't say anything. Is > that really so hard? Or at least take your childish games to e-mail. > I'll try to control myself. It is silly. Alias
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