It could be a flaky NIC driver.
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Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca
"Boyd Tucker" <BoydTucker@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:20DC459F-7D0E-4022-8B30-7C1B9691F0DE@microsoft.com...
> There's no question that there's something weird here. I've tried netbios
> and FQDN with the same result. To make matters more weird (than XP) is
> that
> during the wizard Vista asks if you would like to setup a user account and
> then says it can't establish a trust. But by this time it has setup a
> computer account and joined the domain.
>
> Afterwards I tried using remote desktop to the server and it went right
> into
> the "looking for credentials" and then hung. Again, I had to used Task
> manager to kill it.
>
> I'm getting more convinced that the new security approach in Vista is the
> culprit, at least it is the main difference in the equation than XP, to
> what
> is a otherwise a stable DC/DNS etc on W2K3 for some time.
>
> The other major set of variables is that new Core 2 Duo laptop is decked
> out
> with the latest add-ons like fingerprint readers, cameras, wireless N,
> etc.
> I can't connect these dots to a domain join but hey what do I know.
>
> I even went to the trouble to re-install a version of Vista on this laptop
> that worked well on another to eliminate the chance the OEM version wasn't
> using the same build of Vista. Alas ...
>
> Time to post a new "looking for credential" during remote desktop
> connection
>
> --Boyd
>
>
> "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>
>> That's weird. I've tried joining a domain both ways and both worked. Were
>> you using the NETBIOS domain name or the FQDN? I didn't think of it until
>> now but I usually use mydomain.lan rather than just mydomain when joining
>> a
>> domain.
>>
>> --
>> Kerry Brown
>> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>>
>>
>> "Boyd Tucker" <BoydTucker@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:C28A40A8-84BF-4874-AA1D-8A8DE576C114@microsoft.com...
>> > given this is a new pc with not much on it but the os i decided to
>> > replace
>> > everything with a fresh vista install. so the pc has nothing but vista
>> > on
>> > it
>> > right now. i tried the domain join via system
>> > properties/computername/change... and that again gave me the looking
>> > for
>> > credential. cancellin this after 5 mins hangs the system properties
>> > task
>> > and
>> > task manager has to be used to kill it. i then tried system
>> > properties/computername/network id wizard. This worked well (with
>> > extra
>> > steps over how its works in XP... Vista annoyance).
>> >
>> > So as it stands, the "Change..." doesn't work in Vista but "Network Id"
>> > does.
>> >
>> > onwards...
>> >
>> > thanks for input
>> >
>> > --Boyd
>> >
>> >
>> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>> >
>> >> You have to figure out what is different on that PC from the other
>> >> Vista
>> >> business computer that joined the domain OK. My guess would be a third
>> >> party
>> >> firewall. Note that some AV apps disable the Windows firewall and
>> >> substitute
>> >> their own. As far as I know there are no different requirements on the
>> >> server to join Vista to a domain. Use nslookup to confirm that DNS is
>> >> working. Failure to join a domain is almost always a DNS problem
>> >> somewhere.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Kerry Brown
>> >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> "Boyd Tucker" <BoydTucker@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:5F8AFB3E-3D01-4F17-8B7B-44AA0B86B629@microsoft.com...
>> >> > Server 2003 DC hosts the DHCP server and it's scope options provide
>> >> > the
>> >> > setup
>> >> > of DNS/WINS to all clients, so the dns/wins/gw... were all the same
>> >> > IPConfig
>> >> > /all did confirm this. Interesting that the "looking for
>> >> > credentials"
>> >> > PC
>> >> > is
>> >> > not able to see computers on the domain but setting up a network
>> >> > location
>> >> > was
>> >> > no problem. all names were resolved without hesitation. this say
>> >> > to
>> >> > me
>> >> > that
>> >> > either dns or Wins is working just fine.
>> >> >
>> >> > Is there any possibility that Vista uses a different technique than
>> >> > XP
>> >> > to
>> >> > join DC hence requiring more on Server 2003?
>> >> > --
>> >> > --Boyd
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > "Kerry Brown" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> "Boyd Tucker" <BoydTucker@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in
>> >> >> message
>> >> >> news:7A147425-45FE-4794-9B01-83063908820E@microsoft.com...
>> >> >> > I've got this pain in the butt notebook that came with Vista
>> >> >> > Business
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > when I tried to join an active domain it got hung up while
>> >> >> > "looking
>> >> >> > for
>> >> >> > credentials" i.e. in preparation for the prompt for the server
>> >> >> > username
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > passowrd to join a domain.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I left that probelm to move on to join other PC's and the next
>> >> >> > one
>> >> >> > was
>> >> >> > another Vista Business notebook and guess what ... not a problem.
>> >> >> > I
>> >> >> > went
>> >> >> > on
>> >> >> > to join other XPP PCs as well.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > So the problem isn't the server/network/firewall/etc if evrything
>> >> >> > but
>> >> >> > one
>> >> >> > PC
>> >> >> > works??? I have compare the problem Vista to another Vista to see
>> >> >> > if
>> >> >> > there's
>> >> >> > some config issue but all seem to be the same.... except the
>> >> >> > problem
>> >> >> > PC
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > new PC with Vista Business OEM with Office 2007 trial pre-loaded.
>> >> >> > And
>> >> >> > Office
>> >> >> > 2007 stuff was removed. The other "working" Vista PCs were fresh
>> >> >> > install
>> >> >> > of
>> >> >> > Vista Business.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Anyone with an idea?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Thanks
>> >> >> > --Boyd
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Check the DNS settings. Compare ipconfig /all from a computer that
>> >> >> worked
>> >> >> to
>> >> >> the one that didn't. When joining a domain the only DNS server in
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> TCP/IP
>> >> >> properties should be a Domain Controller on the Domain being
>> >> >> joined.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> Kerry Brown
>> >> >> Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
>> >> >> http://www.vistahelp.ca
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >>
>>