Mark

As I've stated, at least 4 times now: Corrupted files are useless.
But, in our use of files, we frequently modify, rename, or move files.
Each instance creates a new copy of the file and erases the name in the
original pointers, but keeps the pointers until actually overwritten when
the space is demanded.
If not overwritten, the original file can be recovered and there is
typically very minimal data loss.

Example:
In the case of an important family photo, it might be enough to recover the
original before the red eyes were fixed. I never stated that the corrupt
file could be repaired. But, if the original could be recovered and used,
then the red eyes could be fixed again.

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You're response indicates, again, that you either failed to read the posts,
you don't care to understand, or more likely continue to be simply arrogant.
I'm not sure how you are helpful enough to anyone with this method of
response to attain MVP, but alas, you display the title placing yet another
black mark on the MVP group. As for me, I no longer see your comments, but
if you still feel the need to strike again... feel free.

"Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:OhpZDl71HHA.5360@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
> Then they weren't corrupted. Corrupted files have missing information and
> are likely totally UNUSABLE - unless it is a pure text file that you can
> fill in the missing information and sentences.
>
> How do you fill in corrupted audio information or video information. How
> about that photo of your glorious friend that now has lost one of her
> appendages. Lost information, deleted information is ***NOT*** the same as
> corrupt information. And this whole discussion is about "corrupt" files -
> not deleted files or files that are a partition that went raw or otherwise
> lost the partition formation.
>
> There is a HUGE difference! Learn this difference.
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Richard Urban
> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>
> "Mark" <jmhonzell.nospam@insightbb.com> wrote in message
> news:uCW2$Z51HHA.4584@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Rich,
>>
>> Either you didn't bother reading the posts, or you are simply arrogant.
>> I guess you spent too much on those other companies recovering a file.
>> I only spent $40 and got all my files back from my drive.
>> And, yes... it was formatted and re-partitioned.
>> (Exactly what the vendor stated their software could do.)
>>
>> As I stated in my prior post, the corrupted file is useless.
>> My point was the original data may be recovered from a different version
>> of the same file that is in an "erased" state.
>>
>> I didn't state all files could be recovered. I stated I had good success.
>> (In my case, I recovered ALL my pictures and documents.)
>> I thought I was clear stating that to recover from the "corrupt" file:
>> 1. The files had to be modified or re-saved... meaning written to the
>> disk more than once, or
>> 2. The area written to originally was not written over.
>>
>> This allows "restoring" the "other" version of the same file.
>>
>> Most drives when formatted do not use the full format option leaving the
>> data area untouched.
>> Re-partitioning does not wipe the drive.
>> With these two simple tidbits, most files can be recovered from formatted
>> or re-partitioned drives by a program that looks at the drive in raw
>> format, finds all the allocation tables and rebuilds them. Comparing file
>> storage indexes creates the percentage of success of any one file being
>> recovered and minimizes the effort of sorting through a lot of garbage
>> files.
>>
>> The more expensive restoration:
>> While wiping a file if extremely effective, wiping a file almost never
>> touches the File Allocation Table. So, even though the data is "gone,"
>> the exact location of a file can still be determined, and yes, with the
>> right software, it can be recovered. (Unless you use a multiple wipe with
>> random data. Seven times recommended.)
>>
>> The impossible:
>> If the surface of the hard drive is corrupt, you cannot recover the file.
>> Degauss the hard drive.
>> If there is only one original of the file and it is recovered corrupt,
>> then it typically cannot be repaired.
>>
>>
>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23wwoV821HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hell. If that were the case, all files would be recoverable.
>>>
>>> Drive Savers and Ontrack can not even do that. These are the folks that
>>> corporations send their hard drives to for recovery. I have a fellow who
>>> was charged over $1800 for recovery and he only got back about 40% of
>>> his files. The others were reported to be - guess what - too corrupted
>>> to recover.
>>>
>>> If you don't backup you have no one to blame but yourself!
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Richard Urban
>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>
>>> "Mark" <jmhonzell.nospam@insightbb.com> wrote in message
>>> news:e$Uwg121HHA.6128@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>> Not exactly. The file you are attempting to use is corrupted. But the
>>>> original data may still be present.
>>>>
>>>> It depends on the corruption, number of times the file has been
>>>> modified (re-saved), method of loss, encryption, etc.
>>>> "Corrupted" files are recovered by the feds all the time.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Richard Urban" <richardurbanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eKvuDz21HHA.1124@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Corrupted files are just that. Data has gone missing from the file. It
>>>>> is unreadable and pretty much useless. There is no way to restore a
>>>>> "corrupted" file, other than via your backup. You DID create a backup,
>>>>> right?
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Richard Urban
>>>>> Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
>>>>> (For email, remove the obvious from my address)
>>>>>
>>>>> "I'ecus" <iecus@rcn.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:er%23UH%2311HHA.1168@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> guys do you know of any good programs that will recover corrupted
>>>>>> files on a formatted/corrupted HD. I have a HD that just crashed, I
>>>>>> formatted it and I was able to use getdatarecovery ntfs and some
>>>>>> other programs that recovered my formatted data. I got everything but
>>>>>> when I open my .docs or pics they're still corrupted. I tried d/ling
>>>>>> free and demo software to see if they can fix the corrupted docs and
>>>>>> pics I found but so far none have worked. Can anyone think of any
>>>>>> software that worked for them or something that may work for me. even
>>>>>> if I can find a demo that will show me it really does work. I don't
>>>>>> mind having to pay for it. This has my wifes and I wedding pics and
>>>>>> some of her art work that I would really love to get back for the
>>>>>> both of us....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks for ANY help I can get.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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