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Old 08-05-2007   #5 (permalink)
Malke


 
 

Re: Seeing other computers in workgroup

news wrote:

> Hi Malke,
> so maybe you can answer this question. windows XP, 2000, NT, even 98
> could see more than one workgroup at the same time.


Yes, but for some reason it works better to have the same Workgroup in
some instances. It's a mystery, but for instance in our school network
putting all the workstations (not domain members) in Workgroup instead
of MSHOME pops up the connection to a server share immediately. They
never find it if we leave them MSHOME - oh, and those workstations are
running XP Home Edition.

> network neighborhood was browseable by entire microsoft network or
> computers near you. I've tried for 2 weeks now to get vista to see a
> network with mixed OS's and 2 workgroups. I've tried the suggestions on
> the article you mentioned. I even turned off the windows firewall
> (since we're behind a firewall already) and it still refuses to see 2
> workgroups.


It's not possible for me to tell you what you're doing wrong, but you
*are* doing something wrong. I have Linux, OS X, Vista Premium, XP Home,
and XP Pro on my network and all the machines can share files just fine.

>
> So is the bottom line that vista sees only ONE workgroup? I've got
> several sites I work at that have more than one workgroup on purpose.
> These people don't have the $$$ to spend for a server so they do what
> they need with the windows workstation OS they have.


I can't confirm that Vista only sees one Workgroup. I have read that you
should set the same Workgroup but have not seen where that is an actual
requirement. If your clients have multiple Workgroups, then the Vista
machine will be in one of them so what's the big deal? Or tell your
clients not to move to Vista. Businesses shouldn't be moving to Vista
yet anyway.

> so the way network neighborhood used to work is now gone? I'm still in
> the early stages of using vista but I have to admit this is a bit
> confusing. what was wrong with the way network browsing worked? I
> didn't hear anyone complaining about that aspect of windows. what
> people complained about was security problems, viruses, having to run
> windows as administrator (which is NOT a good idea for production use),
> having to reboot windows at least once a week due to memory leaks,
> windows (or applications) prone to corruption (patches anyone??), etc.


Actually Network Neighborhood (My Network Places in XP) was always very
unreliable and not the best way to access network resources. Better to
create shortcuts to regularly used network resources and/or map drives.

Again, I don't know why you are having such difficulties. Vista machines
aren't yet thick on the ground here but I haven't had any difficulty in
networking them for clients or myself.


Malke
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