08-20-2007
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Re: Message Rules working erratically? No, WLM =Windows Live Mail, which according to Microsoft
will be the replacement for Windows Mail. For more on WLM
see http://get.live.com/betas/maildesktop_betas
Gary VanderMolen
"Rick" <blue_no-spam-pls_heron3@verizon.net> wrote in message news:eyi$Mdu4HHA.484@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
> Ah, WLM -- does that mean Windows Live Messenger? I know nothing about it. But yup, I'm using Windows Mail.
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> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:eHfCVYu4HHA.1208@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> Not sure which explanation you are referring to, but my previous
>> post was about WLM (not WM). I see you are using WM.
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>> Gary VanderMolen
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>> "Rick" <blue_no-spam-pls_heron3@verizon.net> wrote in message news:O#tUzIt4HHA.5804@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>> Hmmm...so you think that the explanation that's been offered for why my rules work erratically might not be correct?
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>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:OCEfyAt4HHA.5160@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>>I haven't fully explored this yet, but I think WLM's custom
>>>> rules operate *before* the junk filter rules.
>>>> I don't want to use WLM's account folders, so I have a
>>>> message rule that redirects all incoming mail to a custom
>>>> folder. That folder receives everything, including the junk emails.
>>>>
>>>> Gary VanderMolen
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>>>> "Rick" <blue_no-spam-pls_heron3@verizon.net> wrote in message news:O$x6Q8q4HHA.5980@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>> Ah, that would explain it. I've always assumed that WM would see my rules and understand that if a message matches any of
>>>>> them, I'm implicitly declaring it legitimate mail. I have another email program whose junk mail filter is simply another
>>>>> rule, and I just make that rule my LAST one. Works perfectly: if a message doesn't meet any of these rules, then it's junk.
>>>>> That algorithm seems more logical to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> I subscribe to a number of email listservs, often on yahoogroups, and I'd like to route messages from them to special
>>>>> folders. They come in to me with a unique email address in the TO: field such as 'groupname@yahoogroups.com'. The FROM
>>>>> field could be anyone, but I still want the message routed to my special folder. I should be able to have a rule based on
>>>>> the TO field kick in before WM looks at the FROM field, doesn't recognize the sender, and declares it junk! There's no way I
>>>>> can put every member of all my email groups in my approved sender list--I don't know them all and don't want to!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any thoughts.
>>>>>
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>>>>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@NoMail.invalid> wrote in message news:%23XMTWEo4HHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>I believe the Junk E-mail rules operate before your custom rules do.
>>>>>> So, if WM thinks it is spam, your rules will never touch that message.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary VanderMolen
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>>>>>> "Rick" <blue_no-spam-pls_heron3@verizon.net> wrote in message news:#vec9pm4HHA.5316@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>> Hi -- I'm still having problems and for the life of me I can't figure out why. Here's one Rule Description:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apply this rule after the message arrives
>>>>>>> Where the To or CC line contains 'psn@lists.colorado.edu'
>>>>>>> Move it to the PSN folder
>>>>>>> and Stop processing more rules
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yet when a message comes in with psn@lists.colorado.edu in the TO field -- it doesn't have any other addresses in the TO
>>>>>>> field, and there's no CC or BCC addresses -- it often (not always, but erratically) for some reason ends up in my Junk
>>>>>>> folder. There are NO other rules that process messages with 'psn@lists.colorado.edu' in the TO field. This rule is the
>>>>>>> fiteenth of thirty-two rules that I have. And it's not by any means the only rule that's causing problems. Any thoughts?
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "brink" <brink.2urkd7@no-mx.forums.net> wrote in message news:brink.2urkd7@no-mx.forums.net...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rick;408797 Wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I'm finding that my Message Rules sometimes don't work -- a message will
>>>>>>>>> occasionally end up (seemingly randomly) in my Inbox or Junk Mail
>>>>>>>>> rather
>>>>>>>>> than the folder I've specified. A typical rule has action = 'Move it to
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> specified folder', description is typically "from [a sender]" or "to [a
>>>>>>>>> sender]", and then the message is moved to the specified folder. I
>>>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>>>> make sure to include 'Stop Processing More Rules'. I have about 30
>>>>>>>>> rules.
>>>>>>>>> Am I doing something wrong? Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Rick,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You are on the right track, but you need to double check to make sure
>>>>>>>> that you do not have any conflicting message rules. It might be easier
>>>>>>>> to write them all down exactly as they appear and sort through them that
>>>>>>>> way. It's simple, but time consuming.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Shawn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> brink
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