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> Ah, Ok.
>
> With the scenario you posted below, it makes perfect sense that the machine would boot faster.
> You've significantly reduced the size of the Master File Table for the C drive and also greatly reduced
> the area that the drive has to search during the boot sequence.
>
> My reply applies to when the machine is up and running, reading and writing files.
> If you really want to see a significant performance boost, run two drives with data files and the paging file
> on the "Drive" separate from the OS.
>
> fwiw I run a Dual core machine with 1 GB of Ram and 2 160 GB sata drives.
> Dual boot with XP and Vista Ultimate.
> Both clean installs on brand new drives.
> The XP paging file is on the Vista drive
> The Vista paging file is on the XP drive
>
> Contrary to what others have posted, Vista is "much" faster than XP
> with this set up.
>
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> --
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> Steve Easton
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> "Joel Dahl" <JoelDahl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:1AA39047-45E9-4564-9020-34BE5E081B9D@microsoft.com...
> > I've seen that said elsewhere, and as I posted above, I don't even vaguely
> > have the technical training to argue one way or the other on that point,
> > however my past experience proves otherwise.
> >
> > So, while I'm not challenging you on this point, allow me to describe why my
> > past experience leads me to believe that moving data onto a separate
> > partition on the same physical drive improves performance, and perhaps you or
> > someone else can explain to me the real reason for why this happens.
> >
> > I had a Windows XP machine with a 40 GB physical hard drive, the entirety of
> > which was formatted as a 40GB C: drive. I noticed with this machine (and
> > with other machines I'd had previously) that its performance generally seemed
> > to slow down over time, the longer I had the machine (and yes, I did have
> > general system maintainance performed regularly, defragmenting the HD, etc.).
> > My presumption was/is that as time passed, I created and saved more data
> > files, so there was more data for the system to have to churn through the
> > longer I had the computer.
> >
> > It got REALLY bad when I took my entire CD collection and imported it all
> > into iTunes (about 15 GB worth). Basic windows processes (booting up,
> > minimizing or maximizing a screen) would have a noticeable lag with an
> > hourglass on screen before anything would happen).
> >
> > A friend suggested to me that I separate my C: drive into a 17GB (the
> > minimum for XP, apparently) C: drive, and leave the remaining 23GB as a new
> > D: partition, and transfer the My Documents folder, and all the data it
> > contained (including my newly bloated iTunes folder, which was the main
> > offender in slowing down my system) onto drive D:
> >
> > I did so, and AS SOON as I did, the computer returned to its original,
> > fresh-out-of-the-box level of performance.
> >
> > So my question is, if moving my data onto a separate partition on the same
> > physical hard drive didn't cause the speed-up of my OS, what did?
> >
> > This story is about my old XP machine. As for my new laptop with Vista, I
> > can't say for sure if the same rule will prove true (though I've obviously
> > been assuming that it will). I haven't put a whole lot of data on it yet,
> > and now that I've moved the Documents folder onto my D: partition, that's
> > where I'm going to put all my data when I do put lots of data on it.
> >
> > Thanks for your input! I really appreciate it!
> >
> > Joel
> >
> > "Steve Easton" wrote:
> >
> >> I hate to tell you this, but moving / saving / working with files in another partition on the "Same" drive
> >> does not speed up anything.
> >> The only thing it accomplishes is that they're saved if you ever need to reformat the OS partition and
> >> reinstall.
> >>
> >> Using a second physical drive for data file storage and also moving the paging file there "Is" a definite
> >> performance advantage.
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Steve Easton
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> "Joel Dahl" <JoelDahl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> >> news:C4625BB7-8C88-430B-8167-7A4655C544BA@microsoft.com...
> >> >I just bought a new laptop with Windows Vista installed. I have a 120 GB
> >> > hard drive, which I ordered Dell to partition into a 40 GB C drive and an 80
> >> > GB D drive (with my DVD drive being drive E).
> >> >
> >> > So I got the laptop and the partitioning is all done as I requested. Now
> >> > what I want to do with it is to set it up similarly to the way I had my old
> >> > Windows XP machine set up, which was as follows:
> >> >
> >> > I separated my old XP machine into a 17GB C drive, and a 23GB D drive. I
> >> > managed to set up my XP operating system so that the "My Documents" folder
> >> > (and all associated subfolders) was on drive D, while the OS and all
> >> > applications were installed on drive C, but whatever data files I created
> >> > were on drive D. The reason I did this was that I had a lot of data on my
> >> > machine, and having it on the same drive as the OS was slowing the OS down
> >> > substantially, but the OS performed well when all that data was on a separate
> >> > drive.
> >> >
> >> > What I want is to do substantially the same thing with my new Windows Vista
> >> > laptop. I want to have the OS and all installed applications remain on drive
> >> > C, but put my entire user account folder (C:\Users\Joel_T_Dahl) on drive D
> >> > (my 80GB data partition). Or, if I can't do that, I'd like to move just the
> >> > major subfolders of my user account (i.e., "Documents," "Music," "Pictures"
> >> > etc.) onto drive D. I have a lot of music and pictures I want to put into
> >> > those folders, and before I put them into those folders, I want to move those
> >> > folders onto drive D, so that the data doesn't bog down my OS.
> >> >
> >> > I know I could just deliberately save all my data onto drive D, but most
> >> > applications save data into these Vista equivalents of the XP My Documents
> >> > subfolders, and it would be nice not to have those defaults point to a folder
> >> > that's already on drive D (and not to have to change the default save
> >> > directory with each new application I install).
> >> >
> >> > So in sum, I would like for C:\Users\Joel_T_Dahl to become D:\Joel_T_Dahl,
> >> > with all the associated settings within Windows Vista changed so that they
> >> > know what drive path to point to when accessing Joel_T_Dahl and/or any
> >> > associated subfolder.
> >> >
> >> > Or, if I can't move my user account folder off the drive that has the OS,
> >> > I'd like for
> >> >
> >> > C:\Users\Joel_T_Dahl\Documents\
> >> > C:\Users\Joel_T_Dahl\Music\
> >> > C:\Users\Joel_T_Dahl\Pictures
> >> > (etc., etc.)
> >> >
> >> > to become
> >> >
> >> > D:\Documents
> >> > D:\Music\
> >> > D:\Pictures\
> >> > D:\(etc., etc.)
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > Joel
> >>
> >>
> >>
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