jonah wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 01:40:38 -0600, "Jupiter Jones [MVP]"
> <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote:
>
>> Dennis;
>> That seems to be a more common theme as Vista gets more public.
>>
>> People need to remember Vista is Beta.
>> I usually suggest to others.
>> Do not install Beta anything unless you are prepared for total data
>> loss and a Clean Installation of the operating system to resolve any
>> issues.
>> I realize that is extreme, but it covers the nature of Beta, not just
>> Microsoft or operating systems, but Beta anything from any source.
>> Anyone not prepared for those terms, is probably not ready to have a
>> Beta on their computer.
>> That is how I look at any Beta before installing.
>> That is why Vista is on a computer with nothing of value, or at
>> least not otherwise stored.
>> Currently I do not trust Vista enough to use it as my main OS.
>>
>> It is possible the OP has a hardware configuration incapable of
>> supporting Vista.
>> But more than likely, if the proper details were provided to this
>> newsgroup, someone could have helped resolve any issues or at least
>> help determine the precise cause.
>> But to do any of that, details are necessary, details not provided.
>
> I don't agree Jupiter,
>
> I am an experience PC user and system builder, I do not like a lot of
> the "new" features in Vista, Beta or not it is a lot of hassle to run
> and some things are just laughably stupid, the new search for one as
> has been pointed out, the clunky ridiculously complicated file sharing
> system (FFS its easier to set up Samba or NFS on a Linux Box). It has
> a lot of problems not related to being a Beta mainly that the simple
> has become either merely annoying or over-complicated. This is a high
> price to pay for supposed extra security when we all know Vista will
> be hacked to death as soon as it becomes worthwhile to do so therefore
> all this extra security getting in the way of useability becomes
> questionable because it is IMO badly implemented.
>
> I fully understand why the OP is annoyed and frustrated, a good
> portion of the people testing this are power users not newbies and TBO
> Vista looks like a bit of a bodge job under the hood. Very pretty but
> thats all it has going for it at the moment. I hope things will
> improve a lot in future Betas and the release version. However I will
> not be using it on anything but a test box, or recommending any of my
> more experienced clients install it till I have had a good look at the
> final version. It is however a good OS for a newbie, security wise but
> then so is any Linux distro, Mac, if its set up correctly.
>
> XP is the best OS MSFT have ever done, Vista is looking a bit surplus
> to requirements at the moment.
>
> Jonah
Wasn't there much the same complaints about XP before and just after it was
released? Only time will make it clear if Vista is a good OS or not.
Personally I like the new security. If you run as a standard user and use
"Run as administrator" when needed it works very much like most Linux
distros. It's only when you run as the crippled, fake administrator/user
account and expect it to operate as XP did that Vista becomes frustrating.
I do agree that the search function seems to get more useless with every new
MS OS.
--
Kerry
MS-MVP Windows - Shell/User
www.VistaHelp.ca