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10-16-2007

"Jon" <Email_Address@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Paul Randall" <paulr901@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> "Paul Randall" <paulr901@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> I'm running preinstalled Vista Home Basic on a cheapo Compaq desktop,
>>> which has no updates and has been connected to the internet for a half
>>> hour at most through a firewalled router, so it is probably not infected
>>> with much junk.
>>>
>>> Four questions:
>>>
>>> 1) On the Indexing Options which I access from control panel, I click
>>> the modify button to change the locations to be indexed or excluded from
>>> indexing. I can't find any way to remove the following locations from
>>> the 'exclude' list: Program Files, ProgramData, Default, and WINDOWS.
>>> I don't want any files excluded. How can I remove everything from the
>>> exclude list?

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>> I've found part of the answer to question 1. The indexed locations
>> windows has an upper part and a lower part. Clicking the 'show all
>> locations' button, the upper window shows some (all?) drive letters with
>> breadcrumb icons to expand the folder tree. Next to each drive or folder
>> is a selection checkbox. The list of excluded places is displayed in the
>> lower window. All folders not checked in the upper tree window show up
>> in the list of excluded folders for each drive. Some of my excluded
>> folders were easy to find in the tree. Default was a pain, but
>> eventually I discovered a folder named default down a few levels.
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>> I was not able to INCLUDE folder C:\ProgramData or any of its subfolders
>> because the checkboxes are grayed out.
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>> I'd like help or links to info on how to enable indexing of this folder.
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> I believe this is a case of checking the 'Index this folder for faster
> searching' box via
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> Right-click 'ProgramData' folder > Properties > Advanced
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> Be aware that the index itself is in 'C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search'
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> so 'Indexing the index' might potentially have unpredictable ramifications
> (??)
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> Also the fact that it's a hidden folder will also affect what you can
> sjearch for in that folder.
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>> -Paul Randall
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>>> 2) When I click the Advanced button on the Indexing Options page, and go
>>> to the file types tab, I get a list of almost 400 file extensions. I
>>> assume that checking the checkbox means that files of this extension
>>> should be indexed. By default, not all of the file extensions are
>>> checked. I am allowed to check all but a few of them, but some don't
>>> stick. Two extensions that won't stick are .z96 and .zfsendtotarget. If
>>> I close and reopen this window, they revert to being unchecked. What
>>> can I do to make the checking a checkbox stick?
>>>
>>> 3) For some extensions, the filter description column says: Registered
>>> IFilter is not found. One example is files of type .zumaSavedGame.
>>> Below, in the 'How should this file be indexed?' section, there are two
>>> options, one of which can be chosen for the highlighted file type in the
>>> upper section; the choices are 'Index Properties Only', and 'Index
>>> Properties and File Contents' (the default option for .zumaSavedGame).
>>> When I try to select 'Index Properties Only', sometimes it sticks for a
>>> little while and sometimes it doesn't, meaning sometimes I can OK out of
>>> Indexing Options and restart it from control panel, and my change to
>>> .zumaSavedGame is still there, and sometimes it reverts to the default.
>>> Is this how it is supposed to work, and if not, what can I do to fix it?
>>>
>>> 4) For some extensions, like .WebAllowBlockList, the checkmark is
>>> checked, and I can not uncheck it. When I hover over that extension, I
>>> get a popup saying 'You do not have permission to change the settings
>>> for this extension'. I can't find any files with this extension, but
>>> Vista is pretty good at hiding stuff, and why have this extension in the
>>> list if there are no such files? Anyhow, can anyone shed light on what
>>> is happening here or what I can do to get permissions to change the
>>> setting for this extension or prove to myself that no such file exists?
>>>
>>> Thanks for any help/understanding you can give me.
>>>
>>> -Paul Randall
>>>

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> For your other questions, I'd suggest having a look in the registry under
>
> HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT at particular extensions
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> eg
> HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.txt\PersistentHandler shows the ClassId for the
> IFilter for text files etc
> which you can then explore under
> HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID
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> What you see via Indexing Options reflects what you can view there.
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> Excluded extensions are also listed under
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> HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows
> Search\Gather\Windows\SystemIndex\Extensions\ExtensionList
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> If you make changes via the GUI and observe the effect of those in the
> registry (and vice versa), then things may become clearer. You may need to
> stop and restart the Windows Search service if you make changes via the
> registry.
>
>
>
> Re your other questions it sounds like there's possibly some registry
> corruption there eg an untidy removal of an installed IFilter
>
> Also 'WebAllowBlockList' relates to Parental Controls, so it would make
> sense that you couldn't chedk the box to search its contents via the gui,
> but you could examine (and potentially change it) under
>
> HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.WebAllowBlockList
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>
> Haven't covered all your questions I suspect, but a few pointers I hope.

Hi, Jon

Thanks for the information and suggestions. I will play with them today.
My intent is to see what 'Index Properties Only' does when all file
extensions are set this way. Seems like this should quickly produce a
relatively small index that contains the names of every file on a hard
drive.

-Paul Randall

10-16-2007	#4 (permalink)
Paul Randall n/a posts	Re: Questions about indexed search options "Jon" <Email_Address@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:u2nlv49DIHA.1188@xxxxxx Quote: > > "Paul Randall" <paulr901@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:uIjKN$6DIHA.5228@xxxxxx Quote: >> >> "Paul Randall" <paulr901@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:eFn9xNvDIHA.2004@xxxxxx Quote: >>> I'm running preinstalled Vista Home Basic on a cheapo Compaq desktop, >>> which has no updates and has been connected to the internet for a half >>> hour at most through a firewalled router, so it is probably not infected >>> with much junk. >>> >>> Four questions: >>> >>> 1) On the Indexing Options which I access from control panel, I click >>> the modify button to change the locations to be indexed or excluded from >>> indexing. I can't find any way to remove the following locations from >>> the 'exclude' list: Program Files, ProgramData, Default, and WINDOWS. >>> I don't want any files excluded. How can I remove everything from the >>> exclude list? >> >> I've found part of the answer to question 1. The indexed locations >> windows has an upper part and a lower part. Clicking the 'show all >> locations' button, the upper window shows some (all?) drive letters with >> breadcrumb icons to expand the folder tree. Next to each drive or folder >> is a selection checkbox. The list of excluded places is displayed in the >> lower window. All folders not checked in the upper tree window show up >> in the list of excluded folders for each drive. Some of my excluded >> folders were easy to find in the tree. Default was a pain, but >> eventually I discovered a folder named default down a few levels. >> >> I was not able to INCLUDE folder C:\ProgramData or any of its subfolders >> because the checkboxes are grayed out. >> >> I'd like help or links to info on how to enable indexing of this folder. >> > > > > I believe this is a case of checking the 'Index this folder for faster > searching' box via > > Right-click 'ProgramData' folder > Properties > Advanced > > Be aware that the index itself is in 'C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Search' > > so 'Indexing the index' might potentially have unpredictable ramifications > (??) > > Also the fact that it's a hidden folder will also affect what you can > sjearch for in that folder. > > > > > > > Quote: >> -Paul Randall >> Quote: >>> 2) When I click the Advanced button on the Indexing Options page, and go >>> to the file types tab, I get a list of almost 400 file extensions. I >>> assume that checking the checkbox means that files of this extension >>> should be indexed. By default, not all of the file extensions are >>> checked. I am allowed to check all but a few of them, but some don't >>> stick. Two extensions that won't stick are .z96 and .zfsendtotarget. If >>> I close and reopen this window, they revert to being unchecked. What >>> can I do to make the checking a checkbox stick? >>> >>> 3) For some extensions, the filter description column says: Registered >>> IFilter is not found. One example is files of type .zumaSavedGame. >>> Below, in the 'How should this file be indexed?' section, there are two >>> options, one of which can be chosen for the highlighted file type in the >>> upper section; the choices are 'Index Properties Only', and 'Index >>> Properties and File Contents' (the default option for .zumaSavedGame). >>> When I try to select 'Index Properties Only', sometimes it sticks for a >>> little while and sometimes it doesn't, meaning sometimes I can OK out of >>> Indexing Options and restart it from control panel, and my change to >>> .zumaSavedGame is still there, and sometimes it reverts to the default. >>> Is this how it is supposed to work, and if not, what can I do to fix it? >>> >>> 4) For some extensions, like .WebAllowBlockList, the checkmark is >>> checked, and I can not uncheck it. When I hover over that extension, I >>> get a popup saying 'You do not have permission to change the settings >>> for this extension'. I can't find any files with this extension, but >>> Vista is pretty good at hiding stuff, and why have this extension in the >>> list if there are no such files? Anyhow, can anyone shed light on what >>> is happening here or what I can do to get permissions to change the >>> setting for this extension or prove to myself that no such file exists? >>> >>> Thanks for any help/understanding you can give me. >>> >>> -Paul Randall >>> >> >> > > > > For your other questions, I'd suggest having a look in the registry under > > HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT at particular extensions > > eg > HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.txt\PersistentHandler shows the ClassId for the > IFilter for text files etc > which you can then explore under > HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID > > > What you see via Indexing Options reflects what you can view there. > > > Excluded extensions are also listed under > > HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows > Search\Gather\Windows\SystemIndex\Extensions\ExtensionList > > If you make changes via the GUI and observe the effect of those in the > registry (and vice versa), then things may become clearer. You may need to > stop and restart the Windows Search service if you make changes via the > registry. > > > > Re your other questions it sounds like there's possibly some registry > corruption there eg an untidy removal of an installed IFilter > > Also 'WebAllowBlockList' relates to Parental Controls, so it would make > sense that you couldn't chedk the box to search its contents via the gui, > but you could examine (and potentially change it) under > > HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\.WebAllowBlockList > > > Haven't covered all your questions I suspect, but a few pointers I hope. Hi, Jon Thanks for the information and suggestions. I will play with them today. My intent is to see what 'Index Properties Only' does when all file extensions are set this way. Seems like this should quickly produce a relatively small index that contains the names of every file on a hard drive. -Paul Randall
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