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Old 10-19-2007   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Norton Internet Security 2008 and Vista's Security Center

"The retail version of Norton can play havoc with your PC" What are you
basing this on, 2006-back? It is clear you haven't used '07-up. Stop the
bashing and try to help the poster. Other programs have messed SecCenter up
as well, either it is a bug or software writers haven't figured out to write
the uninstall routines right for Vista yet. I have had to do this several
times on different AV and firewall programs so it isn't Norton's fault.

BTW, the SymNRT is supposed to be used only if the add/remove fails or if
you want to clean up some more after a successful remove. It does NOT
replace add/remove and using it as so will cause problems on future installs
of other programs. Remove NIS via add/remove first and then run SymNRT.

As far as comparisons go, NAV beats KAV on every performance test except
bootup time:
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6600_7-...ml?tag=nl.e724

Also NAV has a higher detection rate than KAV and NOD32 as of the last test
at AV Comparatives:
http://www.av-comparatives.org/index...paratives.html

So you Norton bashers are going to have to find another victim. There are
user inputs out there that said that NIS '08 is even lighter than Symantec
Endpoint Protection 11 (the new corporate SAV) so that should tell you how
light Norton is now.



"Kayman" <kayman~nospam~@operamail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

> On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 06:31:03 -0700, howardavatar wrote:
>
Quote:

>> After installing Norton Internet Security 2008 on my Vista Home Premium I
>> noticed the WSC is not detecting it at all. On There live chat they said
>> Microsoft can solve this one. So what can I do to find out why WSC is
>> NOT
>> find NIS 2008?
>
> The retail version of Norton can play havoc with your pc. Uninstall it
> using Norton's own uninstall tool
> http://service1.symantec.com/SUPPORT...05033108162039
> and get a refund
> As suggested on the site, you may wish to print out the directions before
> proceeding.
> While Norton's removal tool usually gets the job done, you may also want
> to
> go to:
> http://www.snapfiles.com/get/winsockxpfix.html
> and download a copy of winsockxpfix just in case. Rarely, the removal of
> NIS breakes the networking components in XP to the point where internet
> access is impossible. This little utility will fix it back up.
> If the Norton removal tool doesn't work satisfactory use this:
> Revo Uninstaller Freeware - Remove unwanted programs and traces easily
> http://www.revouninstaller.com/
> and/or
> RegSeeker
> http://www.hoverdesk.net/freeware.htm
> RegSeeker will remove all associated detritus (registry keys,files and
> folders) from any application. I found this application user friendly and
> very effective but suggest *not* to use the 'Clean the Registry' option.
> Click onto 'Find in registry' and in the 'Search for' box type *Norton*;
> The pertinent registry keys can then be safely deleted (just in case,
> ensure that the 'Backup before deletion' is checked). Repeat the task by
> typing in the Search for' box *Symantec*. You can then go on search and
> remove associated files as well.
> Then use NTREGOPT to compact the registry; Follow instructions.
> http://www.larshederer.homepage.t-online.de/erunt
>
> Do not utilize more than one (1) real-time anti-virus scanning engine!
> Disable the e-mail scanning function during installation (Custom
> Installation on some AV apps.) as it provides no additional protection. In
> fact, most of experts (incl. Norton) believe that scanning incoming and
> outgoing mail causes e-mail file corruption.
>
> Avira AntiVir® PersonalEdition Classic - Free
> http://www.free-av.com/antivirus/allinonen.html
>
> Free antivirus - avast! 4 Home Edition
> http://www.avast.com/eng/avast_4_home.html
> (Choose Custom Installation and under Resident
> Protection, uncheck: Internet Mail and Outlook/Exchange.)
>
> AVG Anti-Virus Free Edition
> http://free.grisoft.com/
>
> Kaspersky® Anti-Virus 7.0 - Not Free
> http://www.kaspersky.com/homeuser
>
> ESET NOD32 Antivirus - Not Free
> http://www.eset.com/
> Have you seen these "extra settings for NOD32"?
> http://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=37509
>
> On-demand AV application (add it to your arsenal and use it as a "second
> opinion" av scanner).
> BitDefender10 Free Edition
> http://www.bitdefender.com/PRODUCT-1...e-Edition.html
>
> A-S applications (grab'em all).
>
> The effectiveness of an individual A-S scanners can be wide-ranging and
> oftentimes a collection of scanners is best. There isn't one software that
> cleans and immunizes you against everything. That's why you need multiple
> products to do the job i.e. overlap their coverage - one may catch what
> another may miss.
>
> SuperAntispyware - Free
> http://www.superantispyware.com/supe...freevspro.html
>
> Ad-Aware - Free
> http://www.lavasoftusa.com/products/ad_aware_free.php
> http://www.download.com/3000-2144-10045910.html
>
> Spybot Search & Destroy - Free
> http://www.safer-networking.org/en/download/index.html
>
> Windows Defender - Free
> http://www.microsoft.com/athome/secu...e/default.mspx
> Interesting reading:
> http://www.pcworld.com/article/id,136195/article.html
> "...Windows Defender did excel in behavior-based protection, which detects
> changes to key areas of the system without having to know anything about
> the actual threat."
>
> Some more useful applications:
> Spyware Blaster - Free
> http://www.javacoolsoftware.com/spywareblaster.html
>
> Rootkit Revealer - Free
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sys...tRevealer.mspx
>
> Crap Cleaner - Free
> http://www.filehippo.com/download_ccleaner/
> If Windows Defender is utilized go to Applications, under Utilities
> uncheck "Windows Defender"
>
> CW Shredder - Free
> http://www.softpedia.com/get/Interne...Shredder.shtml
>
> You are not going to find anything better than the Vista FW and Vista in
> itself due to the advanced features the FW and Vista are using.
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/com...uy/cg0905.mspx
> http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/network/WFP.mspx
>
> Jesper's Blog
> http://msinfluentials.com/blogs/jesp...l-is-free.aspx
> http://blogs.technet.com/jesper_joha...01/426921.aspx
>
> http://www.microsoft.com/technet/tec...l/default.aspx
> "If you try to block outbound connections from a computer that’s already
> compromised, how can you be sure that the computer is really doing what
> you
> ask? The answer: you can’t. Outbound protection is security theater—it’s a
> gimmick that only gives the impression of improving your security without
> doing anything that actually does improve your security. This is why
> outbound protection didn’t exist in the Windows XP firewall and why it
> doesn’t exist in the Windows Vista™ firewall."
>
> Vista Firewall Control
> http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/
>
> Good luck
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