Thanks Roger for your prompt responce, allow me to respond to your Email :
- Roll back option : I have previous laptop with xp pro license can i use
the same license for the new laptop or i have to use different license OEM.
- Vista has higher resource and higher requirements than XP : well i agree
with you however, please note the following :
Windows 95 : required 32 MB and recommended on 64
Windows 2000 : runns on 256 recommended on 512
Windows XP : runs on 256 recommended on 512
Vista : runs on 1 GB and "must" use 2 GB
If you put these into an excel sheet and make a drawing about the hardware
consuming between the different version of Windows you will see that Vista
has touched the sky in the hardware consumsion; for example i'm running
laptop Sony model VGN-FE48G/H, With 2GB DDR2 memory, and my laptop runs very
bad more then i ever seen in my life...
As a software vendor Microsoft should have developed a technology that works
with the hardware available nowadays and not create something that doest work
properly with the current technology.
"Rule number one in technology, build something that CAN Be Used and Not
Looks Good And Cant be Used".
2- You're blaming Microsoft for a failure of the software developers : well
i have read what the hardware vendors have said about Microsoft, and the way
it handeled Vista technology, if you would like i will send you what do they
think about this issue and why this failure has happen,, and they clearly put
the blame on Microsoft and microsoft put the blame back on them, and between
both of you there something called Consumer, that both of you have completely
forgotten about him, this consumer is not happy with the current quality of
his product and need a solution and not a work around this problem then that
problem.
So i'm not blaming microsoft, technology developers such "HP, Dell, IBM,
Mcafee, Norton, is blaming Microsoft" we are just between the legs of both
sides.
3. Most likely buggy drivers. : No that you know that , what is the solution
for this problem that it took over 8 months now !!! we have tried updating
our drivers countinousely but nothing is happening,, how we can sort this
problem out ?
Solution required.
4. IE has never been the best browser : Allow me to disagree with you, IE6
was the best available browser from the ease of use, speed, quality, etc,,,
IE7 fell down,,, this is flat fact, i can publish certain articles about were
Microsoft went wrong with IE7, and 17000 complain about IE7 i will add my
vote on that so they have to be 17001 actually consumers should stand and
tell Microsoft developers you are taking good money and we are paying allot
of money to get something good from you,,, please make something to compete
with Open source please whom for free.
5. Classic menu : Xp had 2 kind of menu, the classic menu available in Vista
force you to use the new menu, please try using the official XP menu and
compare technicly between the 2 versions. i'm sure you will be impressed.
Microsoft is trying to push consumers to work with the new Menu, however
many of us found it technically not worth it, and the other option is realy
worth the it,,, so what shall we do ?
6. explorer.exe : well people dumped windows 98 because of the blue screen,
actually it was funny how people used to make fun of win 98 because so many
blue screen, so today Microsoft has forgotten about that post and replaced
the bluescreen with explorer.exe errors, well comeon man, i'm getting this
error with many applications, i'm a consumer, i dont need to go into deep
technical details every time to solve a problem and work with my machine...
THESE MACHINES AND TECHNOLOGY WERE MADE TO WORK AND NOT TO CRASH.
7. Every version of Windows has required some adjustments : trust me i know
that, we have overcomed this problems with XP, however after good experience
with Vista, the technical problems and performance issues is preventing us to
overcome this problems.
technically speaking, i can put 2 laptops today one running vista and
another running xp, with same confirguration, and applications and test them
for 6 month on performance, activities and achievements, and i will assure
you that vista will only beat xp with the good interface and certain security
features.
What do i suggest :
As Microsoft has done with win98 version 2, i guess a core enhancement has
to happen on Vista and another ver of vista has to be released immidiately,
as vista practically dont meet with today hardware and software standards.
If you dont agree with me, just check why almost 98% of the corporates
worldwide refuse to upgrade to Vista !!! isnt because they dont want to pay
money or they know there is a problem around the corner that microsoft is
closing their eyes on it.
Thanks again for your answer, i thought to reply deeply to make sure that my
point is clear about this issue, we paid good money to Microsoft to use the
technology however Microsoft has to give us back the R.O.I we did, if not,
please with all do respect give us a solution to roll back to XP from
microsoft, because the hardware vendors are blaming you.
"Rick Rogers" wrote:
Quote:
> Hi Michel,
>
> To rollback to XP you need a copy of it with a Product Key. As Vista was
> preinstalled, you need to contact the system manufacturer to see what, if
> any, your downgrade options are. If they don't offer one, then you will need
> a retail product and must also ensure that the manufacturer at least offers
> supporting drivers to download for your system.
>
> As to your other comments,
>
> 1. Vista has higher resource and higher requirements than XP. On the same
> hardware, obviously XP will be faster. All versions of Windows have had
> higher resource requirements than their predecessors, it should be expected.
> Part of the design is to concentrate on using the capabilities of newer
> hardware. On good hardware, my Vista installations move faster than XP ever
> did.
>
> 2. You're blaming Microsoft for a failure of the software developers to
> bring their programs up to the new specifications? They've known for several
> years what the basic parameters were going to be, the first public alpha was
> put out in WinHEC 2003. I know Microsoft can be faulted for some issues, but
> the majority lie in the hands of the application devs.
>
> 3. Most likely buggy drivers. Many network card drivers have trouble with
> the new stack, particularly the implementation of the IPv6 protocol. Some
> are still sorting it out, some have workarounds, some have up to 'snuff
> drivers out there now. You need to check with the card maker for the
> appropriate action.
>
> 4. IE has never been the best browser, just the most widely used one as it's
> integrated into Windows. If it doesn't work well for you, then do as you
> have done and use an alternative. That's why they're out there. As to
> individual responses from problem reports, don't expect one, a dev told me
> once they get around 17,000 per day. The data is then collated and
> prioritized by an automated function. The dev's only see the end reports
> summarizing it, not the individual reports. That function is chiefly used to
> gather data so that efforts can be concentrated on the most widely reported
> issues. If a fix exists for a particular issue, you get the automated
> response from oca with a link to a patch or workaround, but that's about all
> you should expect.
>
> 5. You are aware, I'm sure, that the option to revert to the classic menu
> style still exists, right? Personally, I like the new menu, particularly the
> integration of the run box into the search line.
>
> 6. No, it doesn't sound familiar. It would indicate either some corruption
> of the shell, or that some malware or non-compliant process is running and
> interfering. Surprisingly, or perhaps not so surprisingly, explorer.exe can
> often be affected by addin/plugins that load with IE as they share several
> library files. On several systems I have worked on, I've found this to be
> the cause of all sorts of errors.
>
> Every version of Windows has required some adjustments on the part of the
> user, the software programs, and on Microsoft's initial thoughts on what it
> should be. This is just part of the learning curve, and requires that the
> user make some adjustments in order to feel comfortable with it. It's funny
> to me now to work on XP systems, as they seem so dated in their approach.
>
> --
> Best of Luck,
>
> Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
> http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/
> Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
> My thoughts http://rick-mvp.blogspot.com
>
> "Michel" <Michel@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:65D6A7C4-E7EB-4ABA-BABC-BF9E310B88EA@xxxxxx Quote:
> > I'm a computer expert whom been waiting badly for the long waiting
> > Microsoft
> > Vista, and after all this time, I got the shock of my life when I have
> > purchased and experienced vista.
> > As a computer and technology expert, I will loudly say Vista is the
> > biggest
> > mistake I have ever done in my life, my comments about it is simply:
> > 1. Slow down your machine "Kill your computer performance to do basic
> > activities"
> > 2. Huge problems in compatibility with other required applications "if you
> > feel like paying thousands for compatibility just try Vista" I have
> > changed
> > the Antivirus solution, I had to upgrade my Adobe graphical pack as it
> > created many problems with the stability of my laptop.
> > 3. Network problem : I don’t know why the network sometimes get completely
> > vanished for no reasons, even if you reboot and it’s not a hardware
> > problem,,
> > it’s purely a software problem, as i have already diagnosed it.
> > 4. The Biggest Mistake "IE7" i have already done with trying to solve the
> > problems that IE7 has generated and i teached myself to work on FireFox as
> > Microsoft Team failed to answer my queries or solve any problem I have
> > reported to them earlier.
> > 5. Start Menu: I don’t know who told Microsoft that the current vista
> > start
> > menu is good, but actually it’s not, it’s not useful and it’s hard to know
> > the software’s you have before of the size of menu in All Programs, I don’t
> > need to explain it more because I know that many are facing my problem,
> > and
> > we even forgot what is the applications installed on our computers.
> > 6. Continuous Illegal operation for explorer.exe : is this sounds familiar
> > ?
> >
> > So whets good about Microsoft Vista ?
> >
> > We have to give it for Microsoft for developing a nice graphical
> > interface,
> > that it.
> >
> > What’s my suggestion and request :
> >
> > I need to roll back to Windows XP Professional, I still am a big believer
> > in
> > that operation system, in spite what every person has said about it, I
> > believe that it’s a great operating system, however people needs to know
> > the
> > details of it, and it will be a great secure operating system with
> > excellent
> > performance comparing to Vista.
> >
> > Please send me the manual how to roll back my Laptop from Windows Vista to
> > XP professional keeping into consideration that I’m having a preloaded
> > vista
> > on my laptop.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Michel
> >
>
>