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Old 11-11-2007   #9 (permalink)
R. C. White


 
 

Re: Motherboard replacement vista Bus

Hi, John.

See if this helps:
Windows Live OneCare 2.0 Beta
http://get.live.com/betas/en-us/onecare_betas

Among other things, the FAQ says:
"Is x64 supported?
"OneCare 2.0 Beta supports Windows Vista x64 systems."

I've not used OneCare, John, so I overlooked that part of your message. One
point that I don't see in that web page is whether the beta 2.0 will Restore
a backup made with an earlier version, or with a WinXP version or a 32-bit
version. And, as usual in discussions of backup/restore, the focus is on
the backup part, with short shrift given to the Restore part of the process,
which is really the important part. Backup does us no good if we can't
Restore! :>(

Here's a thread that started in July, discussing this beta, with several
comments by MVP Stephen Boots, who moderates that forum. I'm sure Steve can
answer any OneCare questions you may have. For a current list of messages
in this forum, go to:
http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsO...=1745&SiteID=2

I see that there is a newsgroup named
microsoft.public.windows.live.onecare.backup, but there apparently are no
posts in it at all. :>(

That UPS is a good idea! I've used those for over 20 years and they have
saved me from many disasters.

RC
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R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@xxxxxx
Microsoft Windows MVP
(Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64)

"Motherboard and Processor Replacement"
<MotherboardandProcessorReplacement@xxxxxx> wrote in
message news:FD976966-8ECC-4550-8106-E26C4642D487@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Well I "bit" the bullet and installed Vista Bus 64 and reinstalled all my
> programs. I have my images on a separate HD and backed up also but the
> backup is a One Care back up which is not supported under Vista 64. Is
> there
> a method of recovering all my documents and pst files from the One Care?
> Oh
> and I have installed a UPS as well to avoid a repeat.
>
> "R. C. White" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Hi, John.
>>
Quote:

>> > I use the computer for my photo business so am well backed
>> > up.
>>
>> Good!
>>
Quote:

>> > The only programs I care about are CS3, Bridge, Lightroom and MS
>> > Office.
>>
>> And I assume that you have installation media for all those so that you
>> can
>> reinstall them. There is no upgrade path from 32-bit anything to 64-bit
>> anything; hardware and resulting driver differences are just too great.
>> And
>> there's no path from 64 to 32-bit, either. Whenever we decide to change
>> "bitness", a clean install is the only way to go.
>>
Quote:

>> > My version of Vista Business is an upgrade. I also happen to
>> > have a legal copy of XP 64 bit so I may just bite the bullet and start
>> > from
>> > scratch and upgrade to 64 bit and stay with XP for now.
>>
>> If I were in your situation, I'd clean-install WinXP x64, to provide a
>> start
>> for the upgrade path. Then I'd upgrade from WinXP x64 to Vista Business
>> x64. Then, after finishing with Windows Update and re-tweaking my
>> desktop
>> to suit me, I'd reinstall the apps and restore my data. It's a long
>> process, but by this time tomorrow, I'd be up and running with my new
>> 64-bit
>> Vista system. ;<}
>>
>> RC
>>
>> "Motherboard and Processor Replacement"
>> <MotherboardandProcessorReplacement@xxxxxx> wrote in
>> message news:7B3EEC5C-B9F6-46DA-96BF-7A124DC4CFEA@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > My apologies,
>> > This stuff is new to me. My name is John Hofmann and pretty soon
>> > I'll
>> > be
>> > an alcoholic! My version of Vista Business is an upgrade. I also
>> > happen
>> > to
>> > have a legal copy of XP 64 bit so I may just bite the bullet and start
>> > from
>> > scratch and upgrade to 64 bit and stay with XP for now. I've also sent
>> > the
>> > old board back to Asus for repair but this just may be the opportunity
>> > to
>> > go
>> > the 64 bit route. I use the computer for my photo business so am well
>> > backed
>> > up. The only programs I care about are CS3, Bridge, Lightroom and MS
>> > Office.
>> > My C Drive is Programs only and my F is pictures only and I have a One
>> > Care
>> > Backup of all my documents and images.
>> >
>> > "R. C. White" wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi, Motherboard. (What IS your name - or handle? You apparently put
>> >> the
>> >> Subject where your From name should have been in your OP (Original
>> >> Post).)
>> >>
>> >> Thanks for the additional info. It seems that a repair install is the
>> >> what
>> >> you need to do.
>> >>
>> >> You still didn't answer this question from my first reply:
>> >> >> We don't even know ... if your copy
>> >> >> of Vista is Full, Upgrade or OEM. It DOES make a difference!
>> >>
>> >> It apparently is NOT an OEM disk because that would not have allowed
>> >> you
>> >> to
>> >> upgrade from WinXP with it. If it is a Retail Upgrade DVD, then you
>> >> very
>> >> well may have to reinstall WinXP and run Vista Install from within
>> >> WinXP.
>> >>
>> >> But, if it is a Full Retail Vista DVD, then boot from it and Install
>> >> Vista
>> >> again. When Setup asks, tell it you want to Upgrade.
>> >>
>> >> You've already tried the Repair Boot option, but that new mobo/chipset
>> >> apparently needs more re-customization than simply repairing the
>> >> startup
>> >> files. As I said, the in-place upgrade is more like a complete
>> >> reinstall
>> >> of
>> >> Vista, so it takes a long time. In my case, it took several times
>> >> longer
>> >> than the original clean install of Vista. Upgrades - even an
>> >> "upgrade"
>> >> to
>> >> the already-installed same version - apparently involve a lot of
>> >> backtracking and undoing previous customizations.
>> >>
>> >> If you can backup your data and if you have installation media for all
>> >> your
>> >> applications, your best bet might be a clean install - but if you have
>> >> only
>> >> an Upgrade DVD, then it might involve reinstalling WinXP first.
>> >>
>> >> But I'm still shooting in the dark because I still don't have a clear
>> >> picture of what kind of Vista DVD you have. Until I know that, my
>> >> tries
>> >> to
>> >> help have to be full of "If...if..." :>(
>> >>
>> >> RC
>> >>
>> >> "Motherboard and Processor Replacement"
>> >> <MotherboardandProcessorReplacement@xxxxxx> wrote
>> >> in
>> >> message news:AA71E067-E300-446C-BA78-52DABF2228AF@xxxxxx
>> >> > Ok a little more info, sorry this is new to me. Had an Asus P5WD
>> >> > Premium
>> >> > with Pentium 840 extreme. The board crapped out even though on a
>> >> > surge
>> >> > protector when the lights in the house blinked very briefly other
>> >> > computers
>> >> > in house did not even reboot. I replaced the board with a P5E and
>> >> > quad
>> >> > core
>> >> > intel so it was not close to a duplicate. When the system attempts
>> >> > to
>> >> > boot
>> >> > the microsoft window bar shows up at the bottom of the screen but is
>> >> > shaded
>> >> > and then it just tries to reboot itself. When I attempt to
>> >> > reinstall
>> >> > my
>> >> > Vista Bus I enter my license but it comes back telling me I need to
>> >> > boot
>> >> > from
>> >> > the original OS which was that copy of Vista Bus. I originally
>> >> > upgraded
>> >> > from
>> >> > XP Pro to Vista Bus using this same DVD.
>> >> >
>> >> > "R. C. White" wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi, Motherboard.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Unless that motherboard was an exact duplicate of the failed one,
>> >> >> you
>> >> >> probably will need to do a "repair install", also known as an
>> >> >> "in-place
>> >> >> upgrade" so that Vista Setup can detect the new hardware and
>> >> >> customize
>> >> >> YOUR
>> >> >> installation of Vista to fit its changed environment. It basically
>> >> >> reinstalls Vista, but leaves your installed applications and data
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> place.
>> >> >> You probably should set aside half a day to do this. I did it
>> >> >> several
>> >> >> times
>> >> >> with WinXP; the only time I had to do it with Vista it took me six
>> >> >> hours,
>> >> >> including updating and re-tweaking afterwards.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> You've given us no details - not even the make and model of your
>> >> >> computer
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> the specific version of Vista - so we can give only generic advice
>> >> >> at
>> >> >> this
>> >> >> point. We don't even know if your computer is in warranty, or if
>> >> >> your
>> >> >> copy
>> >> >> of Vista is Full, Upgrade or OEM. It DOES make a difference!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Did you get a Vista DVD-ROM with your computer, or only a recovery
>> >> >> disk
>> >> >> that
>> >> >> restores Vista but wipes out all your apps and data?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> (Too late for this episode, but backup power supplies cost only
>> >> >> $100
>> >> >> or
>> >> >> so
>> >> >> these days. Cheap insurance against power surges.)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> RC
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "Motherboard and Processor Replacement" <Motherboard and Processor
>> >> >> Replacement@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:9707775A-5521-474D-84BF-AA0FCF7EEB9B@xxxxxx
>> >> >> > replaced motherboard and processor after pwr surge. I've run
>> >> >> > "repair"
>> >> >> > from
>> >> >> > Vista disc several times and memory diagnostics to no avail.
>> >> >> > System
>> >> >> > won't
>> >> >> > restart in Safe mode either. I've tried to restore from last
>> >> >> > known
>> >> >> > good
>> >> >> > state but doesn't work either. My only backup is a One Care but
>> >> >> > it
>> >> >> > is
>> >> >> > not
>> >> >> > a
>> >> >> > "full" backup. Any suggestions?
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