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Old 11-20-2007   #8 (permalink)
Robert Aldwinckle


 
 

Re: Right click stops working/New tabs stop working/Menu bar disap

"zookeeperX" <zookeeperX@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Hey Robert,
>
> I'm over here in the search for GDI Objects" where you said to check.
> Wow.
> Wow, absolutely amazing. I must offer soooo many thanks for directing me
> here as I would have NEVER ended up here on my own searching for my problems.
>
> What an amazing little place.... full of so much info; it's great!!
> Thank you, thank you. I owe you one but could probably never pay up
>
> PS: to all who catch this/my orig post (here in GDI-land) - it was
> cross-posted here to help anyone who might need help. As mentioned prior,
(not cross-posted)

Subject: **UPDATE** IE7 Right click/New tabs/Menus Issues **UPDATE**
Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2007 02:25:01 -0800
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general

http://www.microsoft.com/communities...a-53618722edc3

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> Nothing GDI-related came up regarding my problems ....so, please know I'm not
> trying to override any wonderful pertinent info found in the below posts
> (search "GDI Objects"). I just couldn't find any info and decided to post my
> own 'help me please'.... what can I say..... I had a moment.
Notice that I was only pointing out that GDI >9000 can cause the same
symptoms that you are reporting. It is one example of a more general
issue of resource shortage (which may be due to inefficient programming
or bugs (e.g., in the form of leaks) or just a lack of tuning needed to adapt
for a particular user's extraordinary needs.).

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>
> And to all who find this post wherever you are in this overwhelming site; it
> you've read this due to similar issues, as Robert said - click here:
> -----
> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...xp=&sloc=en-us

So, are any of the other numbers changing dramatically?
Try taking note of the numbers for whatever set of tabs you have
at that time. For this I think there are better tools than TM but
I suppose you could try using Alt-PrintScrn and saving however
many rightscrolls it would take to capture them all into a Clip Book.
(Assuming Vista still has clipbrd.exe to Run... but hopefully something
even better?) In fact for this case you could ignore cumulative statistics
such as page faults and I/O counts which could reduce the number of
screens you would have to capture.

Hmm... I just checked in Process Explorer's Help. It has a feature
which might be simpler than the proposed ClipBook idea. Supposedly
once you have selected your iexplore.exe process it could be just as
easy as pressing Ctrl-s... then finding the saved file and opening it
with Notepad. (Seems to work.)

<quote>
When you choose File|Save Process Explorer saves the contents of
the Process and lower pane, if it is showing, as a tab-delimited text file.
</quote>

Another option which would be more work to set up but which would ultimately
be more useful for comparing the statistics from multiple instances would be
to use PerfMon to keep a log of the equivalent statistics we are interested in.
And again, if there are any better tools now in Vista someone else is going
to have to point them out to you.

So, however you do it (even manually using Notepad <w>) get some numbers
and then close your IE window, using the option which says that you want to
reopen the same set of tabs the next time you start it again. Then compare
the set of statistics for the new instance of the browser with the saved set.
If you had a leak in the first instance it would probably be apparent as a much
lower statistic in the second instance (e.g. not necessarily GDI Objects).

BTW from the above search it looks as if you and WayneF could start commiserating:

Subject: Re: IE uses too many GDI Objects (Slows PC)
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2007 09:35:28 +0200
Newsgroups: microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general

http://www.microsoft.com/communities...b56&sloc=en-us

<quote>
Interesting that you can go to 9,900 GDI objects yet if i get to 6,000
..... the computer is basically useless ....
</quote>

FWIW I think that in spite of the thread's Subject that GDI Objects
may not be the issue.

Hmm... that poster was using XP but found an article which apparently
still applies to Vista too...

http://weblogs.asp.net/israelio/arch...-resolved.aspx

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> -----
>
> You'll be amazed. learned, and perhaps scratching your head just a little
> bit less. Not all info may apply, but I promise - you walk away having
> learned something.
>
> Thank you again Robert.... whether all or any might apply to me (still
> testing .... you be my man!

You're welcome. Good luck.


Robert
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>
> Take care,
> -zookeeperX
>
>
> ===============================================
>
> "Robert Aldwinckle" wrote:
>
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>> (cross-post added to Vista Perf & Maint)
>> "zookeeperX" <zookeeperX@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:412CC63D-0D6A-4079-BA7F-930D0D328B22@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> > IE7 NASTY ISSUES with Vista Home Premium
>> >
>> > Okay, as many, once I'm online for one thing... one leads to two and then
>> > five --- ending up with quite a few tabs or a few windows open.
>>
Quote:

>> > At a certain point.... BAM!!!....all sorts of issues start occuring computer-wide
>> > only after originating from problems with ie7.
>>
>>
>> Start looking periodically at any statistics for your iexplore.exe task(s).
>> E.g. use Task Manager's Processes tab (with all statistics in effect)
>> or use Process Explorer (similarly modified). Your symptoms can be
>> caused by resource shortages. One specific example is if GDI Objects
>> gets over 9,000 the symptoms you list would start occurring. You can find
>> further discussion involving this detail by searching for that string (in quotes)
>> using the web interface to newsgroups that you are using.
>>
>> E.g. press Alt-7, type "GDI Objects" and then press Enter:
>>
>> http://www.microsoft.com/communities...xp=&sloc=en-us
>>
>> and after this post this thread will be added to those results. ; )
>>
>> BTW although most of the references to GDI Objects in those threads
>> were initiated by me and several of their OP were specifically referring
>> to their symptoms while using Vista, I don't use Vista. Therefore I have
>> added a cross-post to a Vista newsgroup to try to make sure that you can
>> get Vista-specific responses.
>>
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> Robert Aldwinckle
>> ---

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