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12-17-2007

> Well, I love Vista. And I think the Aero glass interface is great.

has it ever occurred to you that you have very bad taste????

"CMoya" <moy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Well, I love Vista. And I think the Aero glass interface is great. I'm
> talking about the color schemes in the client area of programs
> themselves... which is inconsistent even in Vista's built-in apps.
>
> "vista user 43" <fuv@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:476672f3@xxxxxx-privat.org...

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>> Microsoft Messed up on vista big time... on longhorn they were trying out
>> various colors, and then they rushed out vista
>> and they have done a terrible job on the user interface.. its totally
>> horrible
>>
>> I think its more like what comes out from someones rear end after eating
>> something very very bad
>>
>>
>> Yes Vista is CRAP!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "CMoya" <moy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:4F8FBB04-C2E6-46FA-AA15-F3E902966227@xxxxxx

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>>> Have you read this doc before posting it? If not, why post it? Anyway,
>>> it doesn't address what seems to be the new direction in disparate and
>>> *non-system set* color schemes that are employed in Vista's built-in
>>> Accessories not to mention Office 2007 (arguably Vista's flagship
>>> suite). If you change your Vista "glass" color scheme to Red or Frost,
>>> the toolbars in Windows Mail don't change. Neither in Photo Gallery or
>>> Media Player. Neither does Office 2007's colors change. Moreso, if you
>>> change Office 2007's own scheme to Black or Silver, not all the apps
>>> (OneNote, Publisher, etc) respect the setting. In fact, those apps are
>>> ALWAYS light-blue no matter what you set your Office OR Vista color
>>> scheme to.
>>>
>>> So, that doc is useless I think. Anyone else know if this has been
>>> discussed anywhere? Chan9 blogs, one of the design blogs? I don't know.
>>>
>>> Here's what the Vista "Guidelines" say:
>>> -"Whenever possible, choose colors by selecting the appropriate theme
>>> color or system color. By doing so, you can always respect users' color
>>> preference."
>>> -"Don't hardcode theme-related values or system metrics, such as fonts,
>>> *colors*, or sizes. Respect the user's settings by always obtaining font
>>> typefaces, sizes, and *colors*, Windows display element sizes, and
>>> system configuration settings from the Theme and GetSystemMetrics APIs."
>>>
>>> Seems Vista's own accessories AND not to mention Office 2007 violate
>>> these principles outright. It should be documented somewhere why this is
>>> so.
>>>
>>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:OY2cLIFQIHA.4196@xxxxxx
>>>> Vista User Experience Guidelines:
>>>> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa511258.aspx
>>>> --
>>>> Andre
>>>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com
>>>> My Vista Quickstart Guide:
>>>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry
>>>> "CMoya" <moy@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:C0DAE03F-B7FE-44AE-A42C-4E66ECF4C3F2@xxxxxx
>>>>> So it seems Microsoft has purposefully abandoned the whole notion of
>>>>> consistent color schemes on the OS level. It seems that in Vista,
>>>>> color schemes in apps (toolbars, status bars, backgrounds, etc) are
>>>>> purposefully DIFFERENT colors between apps for a reason.
>>>>>
>>>>> My question is: Have they documented this anywhere? Are there
>>>>> "guidelines" for how to decide what color scheme to use. There must be
>>>>> some rhyme and reason!??!
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's what I've surmised so far:
>>>>> - Turquoise = Generic system stuff like Explorer.
>>>>> - Dark Blue = Minor Accessories like Windows Mail, Calendar, Fax &
>>>>> Scan etc.
>>>>> - Black = Media stuff like Media Player and Photo Gallery.
>>>>> - Light Blue = Office/Productivity apps. Or is this just special to MS
>>>>> Office? Why in Office 2007 can you change the color of the "ribbon"
>>>>> apps but ALL other apps (like Publisher, OneNote, etc) remain
>>>>> light-blue *no matter what.*
>>>>> - Grey = All other legacy and/or programming like Visual Studio.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>

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12-17-2007	#10 (permalink)
vista user 43 n/a posts	Re: Color Scheme Guidelines? > Well, I love Vista. And I think the Aero glass interface is great. has it ever occurred to you that you have very bad taste???? "CMoya" <moy@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:8FE802D2-6704-43A8-92F3-0D4A66DFA44B@xxxxxx Quote: > Well, I love Vista. And I think the Aero glass interface is great. I'm > talking about the color schemes in the client area of programs > themselves... which is inconsistent even in Vista's built-in apps. > > "vista user 43" <fuv@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:476672f3@xxxxxx-privat.org... Quote: >> Microsoft Messed up on vista big time... on longhorn they were trying out >> various colors, and then they rushed out vista >> and they have done a terrible job on the user interface.. its totally >> horrible >> >> I think its more like what comes out from someones rear end after eating >> something very very bad >> >> >> Yes Vista is CRAP! >> >> >> >> >> "CMoya" <moy@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:4F8FBB04-C2E6-46FA-AA15-F3E902966227@xxxxxx Quote: >>> Have you read this doc before posting it? If not, why post it? Anyway, >>> it doesn't address what seems to be the new direction in disparate and >>> non-system set color schemes that are employed in Vista's built-in >>> Accessories not to mention Office 2007 (arguably Vista's flagship >>> suite). If you change your Vista "glass" color scheme to Red or Frost, >>> the toolbars in Windows Mail don't change. Neither in Photo Gallery or >>> Media Player. Neither does Office 2007's colors change. Moreso, if you >>> change Office 2007's own scheme to Black or Silver, not all the apps >>> (OneNote, Publisher, etc) respect the setting. In fact, those apps are >>> ALWAYS light-blue no matter what you set your Office OR Vista color >>> scheme to. >>> >>> So, that doc is useless I think. Anyone else know if this has been >>> discussed anywhere? Chan9 blogs, one of the design blogs? I don't know. >>> >>> Here's what the Vista "Guidelines" say: >>> -"Whenever possible, choose colors by selecting the appropriate theme >>> color or system color. By doing so, you can always respect users' color >>> preference." >>> -"Don't hardcode theme-related values or system metrics, such as fonts, >>> colors, or sizes. Respect the user's settings by always obtaining font >>> typefaces, sizes, and colors, Windows display element sizes, and >>> system configuration settings from the Theme and GetSystemMetrics APIs." >>> >>> Seems Vista's own accessories AND not to mention Office 2007 violate >>> these principles outright. It should be documented somewhere why this is >>> so. >>> >>> "Andre Da Costa[ActiveWin]" <andred25@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> news:OY2cLIFQIHA.4196@xxxxxx >>>> Vista User Experience Guidelines: >>>> http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa511258.aspx >>>> -- >>>> Andre >>>> Blog: http://adacosta.spaces.live.com >>>> My Vista Quickstart Guide: >>>> http://adacosta.spaces.live.com/blog...3DB!9709.entry >>>> "CMoya" <moy@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>>> news:C0DAE03F-B7FE-44AE-A42C-4E66ECF4C3F2@xxxxxx >>>>> So it seems Microsoft has purposefully abandoned the whole notion of >>>>> consistent color schemes on the OS level. It seems that in Vista, >>>>> color schemes in apps (toolbars, status bars, backgrounds, etc) are >>>>> purposefully DIFFERENT colors between apps for a reason. >>>>> >>>>> My question is: Have they documented this anywhere? Are there >>>>> "guidelines" for how to decide what color scheme to use. There must be >>>>> some rhyme and reason!??! >>>>> >>>>> Here's what I've surmised so far: >>>>> - Turquoise = Generic system stuff like Explorer. >>>>> - Dark Blue = Minor Accessories like Windows Mail, Calendar, Fax & >>>>> Scan etc. >>>>> - Black = Media stuff like Media Player and Photo Gallery. >>>>> - Light Blue = Office/Productivity apps. Or is this just special to MS >>>>> Office? Why in Office 2007 can you change the color of the "ribbon" >>>>> apps but ALL other apps (like Publisher, OneNote, etc) remain >>>>> light-blue no matter what. >>>>> - Grey = All other legacy and/or programming like Visual Studio. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >
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