I see no settings in the PC Tools software that indicates it is scanning the
boot sector.
When I installed Onecare it disabled PCTools software for me.
I did have trial Perfect Disk but uninstalled it when this problem arose but
the problem
persisted after the uninstall.
"Michael Palumbo" <micjustmic@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eokY9TbSIHA.5288@xxxxxx
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> "JamesJ" <jjy@xxxxxx_darwin.net> wrote in message
> news:uaULAFbSIHA.5676@xxxxxx Quote:
>> Don't believe software is accessing the drive prior to Windows starting.
>> No dual boot.
>> Vista reports my disk drive as a standard: ST3160812A ATA - 150gb with
>> 134gb free.
>> Anti-Virus software is by PC Tools.
>> This problem wasn't occurring before but I can't say exactly when it
>> started 'cause I only manually create restore points when I install new
>> software.
>> The first time I noticed this was when I created a restore point before
>> installing
>> Live Onecare trial and tryeds to restore the system back. I must say this
>> problem
>> could have been there before installing Onecare.
>>
>> James
>>
>> "Michael Palumbo" <micjustmic@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:OU7H84aSIHA.5104@xxxxxx Quote:
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>>> "JamesJ" <jjy@xxxxxx_darwin.net> wrote in message
>>> news:eukhAMaSIHA.4152@xxxxxx
>>>> Don't know why, but now System Restore allows creation of
>>>> a restore point but after rebooting the restore point is gone.
>>>> Says that no restore points were created on this system.
>>>>
>>>> Any help will be appreciated,
>>>> James
>>>
>>> Are you using any third party disk tools?
>>>
>>> Perfect Disk or Diskeeper?
>>>
>>> Any utility that accesses the disk outside of Windows (during boot, for
>>> example) will cause Windows to erase all restore points. This is due to
>>> the fact that the software is modifying the disk outside of Windows
>>> "control" so Windows has no way of tracking the changes, making the
>>> restore points unusable.
>>>
>>> Also, if you're dual-booting with XP, when XP is run all restore points
>>> for Vista will be erased as well, for basically the same reason(s).
>>>
>>> If neither of these is the case, can you provide more information about
>>> the hardware/software that you are running?
>>>
>>> Mic
>> >
> Were you running PC Tools and Onecare together?
>
> You can't run two antivirus programs at the same time . . .
>
> Does PC Tools scan the boot sectors during boot? If it does, and writes
> to the disk (even just a log) before Vista is doing the disk chores this
> could be the problem.
>
> I'm assuming the restore point is still available BEFORE a reboot, after
> its creation, correct?
>
> If this is indeed the case, this tells me that SOMETHING must be writing
> to the disk, or making some change to the disk, that Windows sees as an
> "untrackable" change casing it to remove the restore points.
>
> I found this out by accident. I was using Perfect Disk and when I ran a
> boot-time defrag noticed all my restore points were gone. After a little
> Googling I found all this out about how Vista handles restore points.
>
> Again, any little change done before Windows is handling all disk
> operations will remove all restore points, that's where I'd start my
> search in your position.
>
> Mic
>
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