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Old 01-22-2008   #10 (permalink)
robinb


 
 

Re: problem with Permissions- can anyone please help

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> It looks like you have TWO admin accounts on Vista with the SAME level of
> privilege and the first one cannot use some of the XP folders but the
> second one can. Right?
Right
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>
> If this is true, then why don't you do the following: (disclaimer: I am
> not sure you will be able to understand why this is happening but perhaps
> you will solve the problem "mindlessly" and forget about it).
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> Go to Robin in Vista, click on the problematic folders in XP,
> Properties>>Security Tab>> Edit>> Add>> add Lori to the list of
> users/groups. Give Lori permissions you want (full rights or whatnot on
> the way back>> Click Apply and forget about the problem
This way i would have to add Robin as a Admin user on XP- I know that is the
work around but I want more to figure out why on the vista why one User that
can get onto the XP Admin user accounts and why one cannot.

I tried going through your way and it will not work.

It is very strange that one can and one cannot. Neither one of them have
permisson now in xp- that folder is shared across the network for
administrator use only

robin

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> Now the happy ending may not be in the offing, actually. We do not have a
> clear understanding why it is happening but this may as well work. It is
> what I would call "workaround."Would you try it?
>
> If I still do not understand you situation correctly, take another stab.
>
> Come back and report, especially if the problem is still there.
>
> "Robinb" <robinbk9_nospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:%23e000URXIHA.4272@xxxxxx
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>>> You are saying that XP users are fine as far as getting into Vista. It
>>> means that they can access any Vista Folder, right? You are not saying
>>> that they can actually control the Vista accounts, even admin accounts.
>>> You are not saying it, I presume. If you really want an XP user (and
>>> administrator on XP machine) to make changes in Vista as a Vista
>>> administrator, it is a different aspect.
>>
>> correct
>>
>>
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>>> From what you seem to be saying in the quoted statement above I deduce
>>> that you want a Vista user with limited admin account to control another
>>> Vista user's full admin account in such a way as to make changes in the
>>> account set up, etc.
>>>
>>
>> no, I actually do not want the lmited account user to network into the xp
>> pro machines, I was using that only as a test to try to figure out why
>> the Administrative user cannot get into the Administrative User on the xp
>> pro machine filders.
>>
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>>> Does it sound right? This may not be possible.
>>
>>
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>>>
>>> FYI, this forum is full of know-it-all trolls who badmouth people trying
>>> to solve other people's problems in good faith. They are near criminal
>>> characters and I was waiting for them to jump in and say: "I do know
>>> what you problem is, Robin!" So far we haven't heard that.
>>
>> I understand, I give help on the microsoft security and Windows defender
>> ng and I know what know it all trolls are all about. I know a lot about
>> computers, I teach Windows Vista and XP, I fix them, I build them and I
>> sell them. but for the life of me I am stumped on this one and was
>> looking to see if anyone had an idea why this is happening
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>>>
>>> Anyhow, I will keep trying to help you but keep it in mind that my
>>> network experience is limited and I need a much better description as to
>>> what your
>>
>> Maybe this will make it easier to understand:
>>
>> 1. 1- computer- running Vista Home Premium- workgroup name "dogs" (dogs
>> is only an example- not the real name)
>> "Lori" (just using that name as an example) is on as Adminstrator-
>> password protected
>>
>> 2. 2 XP Pro computers networked together using the workgroup "dogs"
>> (again dogs is only an example)
>> 1- Michael is the Administrator User on xp pro machine. 1- John is the
>> Administratior user on the other xp pro
>>
>> Michael and John can "see" each other and can access all files that are
>> shared- On both their Administrative My document folder, etc.
>>
>> Michael and John can access all of Lori's files on the Vista Machine
>>
>> Lori cannot access Michael and John's folders- comes up Permisson denied
>> Lori can access two folders on the c drive that are also shared on the 2
>> xp computers- one called Goodstuff- one called Downloads.
>>
>> Now- I make another Administrator user on Vista and call that Robin (both
>> are password protected)
>> Logg off from Lori and go into Robin
>>
>> Robin can see and use Michael and John's Administrative Folder with no
>> problems.
>>
>> So my question is why can't Lori? same adminstrative access as Robin
>>
>> is this better?
>>
>> robin
>>
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>>> "robin" <robinb9_nospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:%23ZNFSfJXIHA.5396@xxxxxx
>>>>I do not think so because there are 3 administrative users on the 3 xp
>>>>pros that are networked. and each computer can get to the one designated
>>>>Administrative User that is being shared.
>>>> In Vista the 2nd user account that i set up with administrative
>>>> authority "sees" and can get into that particular user.
>>>> The limited account with putting in a username and password (the one on
>>>> each xp computer) sees it too.
>>>>
>>>> The 1st user account that has administrative authority gets into the xp
>>>> pro machines but cannot get into the designated Administrative User
>>>> account. If it was on the xp side it would not let any of the Vista
>>>> user accounts in but it is letting all of them in, just not the main
>>>> user account which makes no sense because the names are not even close
>>>> to each other and it is letting it into the two folders that are on the
>>>> c drive.
>>>>
>>>> This is what is so frustating and I cannot figure out what is wrong.
>>>>
>>>> robin
>>>>
>>>> robin
>>>>
>>>> "alexB" <alexb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:%23cWrQQIXIHA.2000@xxxxxx
>>>>> Sorry Robin, it may be blabbering but perhaps every bit helps.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think the problem may be that the XP is not Vista. Could it be
>>>>> possible that XP is used to the fact that there might be only ONE
>>>>> administrator across the network? Actually I have no idea since XP is
>>>>> out of my mind already but it would be interesting to know if this is
>>>>> the case.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Robin, this I just cannot understand:
>>>>>> On the User account that has administrator privileges- she cannot get
>>>>>> in. She can get into the two files that are on the c drive that are
>>>>>> being shared but not the Administrator User Account that is set to
>>>>>> share on the xp pro computers.
>>>>> I think there are two mutually exclusive statements up there. You are
>>>>> saying that "she cannot get in." (the first line) and then: "She can
>>>>> get into the two files that are on the c drive that are being shared"
>>>>> but .. "but not the Administrator User Account ?" what does that mean?
>>>>>
>>>>> You should draw a clear diagram.
>>>>>
>>>>> (1) Account A - administrator privileges in Vista (full rights). Has
>>>>> been defined also in XP under the same name, etc. etc. etc.
>>>>> (2) Account B - adm, limited. In what sense limited, etc, etc, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> "robinb" <robinbk9_nospam@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>>> news:%23zz19HIXIHA.5816@xxxxxx
>>>>>> no, you do not understand the question.
>>>>>> I only have two user accounts-
>>>>>> one has administrator privliges one has limited
>>>>>> the one on adminstrator privliges cannot get into the User folder on
>>>>>> the xp pro networked computer
>>>>>> If I make another User account with Administrative Privliges that
>>>>>> User can get in.
>>>>>> Why can't the first User account that has Adminstrative Privliges get
>>>>>> in?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the limited account was tested and the only way they can get in is by
>>>>>> putting in the username and password to the other xp computer. But
>>>>>> he gets in,,, that is my point.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the User account that has administrator privileges- she cannot get
>>>>>> in. She can get into the two files that are on the c drive that are
>>>>>> being shared but not the Administrator User Account that is set to
>>>>>> share on the xp pro computers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> robin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
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