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Old 01-17-2008   #8 (permalink)
fewdots


 
 

Re: Message Rules

As a rider to my previous posting.... I've checked the header of mails
received from people not in my address book and they are in exactly the same
format. The From name is not necessarily as it is on my own record but is
taken from the user info when they have set up the account in their own mail
application. I've just sent myself emails from different accounts and
different applications (WLM & OE), changing the name in my account settings,
and got a different result on each one!

fewdots

"fewdots" wrote:
Quote:

> Hi again Noel
>
> The problem is with ALL rules, not just the one. I've just checked the
> header of a received message and (substituting real names, for example
> purposes) the From line reads:
>
> From: "Fred Bloggs" <fbloggs@xxxxxx>
>
> So, the rule will work if I tell it to check for Fred Bloggs, but not if I
> ask it to check for fbloggs@xxxxxx, which is the default generated by
> adding from the Contact list or from a received message.
>
> fewdots
>
>
> "Ildhund" wrote:
>
Quote:

> > Unless there is a good reason for not doing so, all rules should end with
> > Stop processing. Mark one of the messages that the <email address> rule
> > doesn't work for and press Ctrl-F3 to expose the headers. Only one of the
> > lines should start with "From:", and the only element it must contain
> > according to RFC2822 is an email address. The name part is optional, so
> > that's why an automatically formed rule looks for the address.
> >
> > If all your exclusive rules end with Stop processing..., I can't think why
> > this is happening. Is the rule that's not working at the top of the list? If
> > not, does it work if you move it to the top? What action is the rule
> > supposed to carry out? If you change it to something else, like Highlight it
> > with a colour, does it still not work? It's not entirely clear from your
> > post whether this is a problem with all rules of this type (where the From
> > line contains people) or just some of them.
> > --
> > Noel
> >
> > "fewdots" <fewdots@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > news:BD8DD738-95BC-416F-9990-9B1D4AF9BAC2@xxxxxx
> >
Quote:

> > > Tried that but it doesn't work. The problem is that WLM wants to put the
> > > email address in the 'Where the From line contains' option but it only
> > > works
> > > if you put the display name there.... because that's what actually appears
> > > on
> > > the From field. I've tried this today on a virgin system and it's still
> > > wrong. However, creating an identical rule in an identical fashion in OE
> > > gives the display name and the rule is applied correctly.
> > >
> > > I apply rules to almost 800 contacts and the only way I can get then to
> > > apply is to manually enter the display name in the rule!!
> >
Quote:

> > > "Ildhund" wrote:
> > >
> > >> Did you finish off your rule with "and Stop processing more rules?" If
> > >> not,
> > >> try doing so and see if the rule works then. When setting up a rule for a
> > >> number of contacts, you can select them all in the Contacts dialogue box
> > >> before clicking To:
> > >> --
> > >> Noel
> > >>
> > >> "fewdots" <fewdots@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > >> news:9C0D9F1C-A580-4512-8D31-E1CBC3552F0E@xxxxxx
> > >> > Hi RC
> > >> >
> > >> > Thank you for your response but I'm afraid that exactly the same thing
> > >> > happens when I create the rule from the message. It creates the rule
> > >> > for
> > >> > fbloggs@xxxxxx but won't apply it until I change the 'from' to
> > >> > Fred
> > >> > Bloggs, which is the contact name. That also doesn't help when I need
> > >> > to
> > >> > create one rule for a group of people.... which has just given me an
> > >> > idea....
> > >> > maybe I can include a block of individuals within a group and then
> > >> > apply a
> > >> > rule to the group?
> > >> >
> > >> > Very strange that an automatic process appears to be using a different
> > >> > criterion to the one that created it, which is why I wondered if I was
> > >> > missing a system parameter somewhere!
> > >> >
> > >> > fewdots
> > >> >
> > >> > "R. C. White" wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> >> Hi, fewdots.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> One way to handle this is to highlight Fred's message, then click
> > >> >> Actions
> > >> >> |
> > >> >> Create rule from message. The Rules screen should open with the
> > >> >> From...
> > >> >> box
> > >> >> already checked and Fred's full address already entered in the
> > >> >> description
> > >> >> box. You may edit it if you like, but what is already entered should
> > >> >> be
> > >> >> correct since it is taken from Fred's message. It probably will show
> > >> >> both
> > >> >> Fred Bloggs and his email address.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> RC
> > >> >> --
> > >> >> R. C. White, CPA
> > >> >> San Marcos, TX
> > >> >> rc@xxxxxx
> > >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP
> > >> >> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64)
> > >> >>
> > >> >> "fewdots" <fewdots@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> > >> >> news:C3E2F5A2-2D6F-49E7-B57C-B7747FE702F9@xxxxxx
> > >> >> > v2008 (12.0.1606)
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > When I try to set up a message rules for several contacts I add them
> > >> >> > from
> > >> >> > the contacts book. However the contact 'Fred Bloggs' has an email
> > >> >> > address
> > >> >> > 'fbloggs@xxxxxx' and selecting him places the email address,
> > >> >> > rather
> > >> >> > than the contact name, into the rule. As the message is received
> > >> >> > from
> > >> >> > Fred
> > >> >> > Bloggs, the rule is not applied.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > I have hundreds of contacts from a variety of organisations and
> > >> >> > don't
> > >> >> > want
> > >> >> > to have to type these in manually. Am I doing something daft?
> > >> >>
> > >>
> > >>
> >
> >
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