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02-12-2008

Patient: Doc, it hurts when I do this....

Doc: Don't do that.

Patient: ow, ow, ow

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"Feldspar" <lordwalsingham@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> OK, I haven't read any new posts above as I'm tired of trolls. You're
> obviously on a wind-up so I'm not gonna bother with you anymore. I'm going
> to
> try and find another forum where people a)actually have some knowledge of
> MS
> products - b)can and are willing to read English and understand things
> like
> context and what the main points are - c)aren't just looking to wind
> people
> up but genuinely want to help - d)don't deliberately seize on *an example*
> and try and make that the main points because really they don't understand
> and do not have an answer for the main points and they need to hide their
> stupidity changing the focus.
>
> Please do flame on as I'll not be back, you have no credibility and you
> certainly haven't helped me, answered my questions or moved the diagnostic
> process on at all. Is this what you do all day? Shouldn't you get out
> more?
> Ta ra!
>
>
> "zachd [MSFT]" wrote:
>

Quote:

>>
>> To others: the definitive differential in the file opening experience is
>> based upon the application's shell association type. Legacy handlers are
>> limited to 15 selections by default for performance reasons.
>> Applications
>> using modern shell association methods will not have this limitation.
>>
>> "Feldspar" <lordwalsingham@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:74942163-DC36-4511-B50C-BB4A11C2E2F4@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> > Once again, try reading my post before replying.

>>
>> I apologize for any misinterpretation in my attempts to clarify what is
>> fairly evidently a Windows design. You're noticing a behavior, I was
>> pointing out Why It Works That Way, which I had hoped would be
>> illuminative.
>>
>> We're clearly not in disagreement over what happens here, right? The
>> only
>> question here was why, which I had hoped to provide some relevant insight
>> upon. I apologize for failing in that regard.
>>

Quote:

>> > It's nothing to do with performance and I wish you'd just drop that,
>> > you're just flat wrong, why can't you admit it?

>>
>> I apologize: I did not mean to offend you in any fashion. I had thought
>> that because I'm on the shell team, know the people responsible for this,
>> and know the change in question, that my insight might be illuminative.
>> I
>> realize opinions will always vary, and I do respect and value yours.
>>

Quote:

>> > Also, your answer doesn't at all address the problem of opening any
>> > more
>> > than just one (1) file at a time with Open With... As soon as I select
>> > even
>> > two files, the Open With... option disappears. Even two 1k text files.
>> > Are
>> > you really trying to tell me that they disabled that deliberately
>> > because
>> > of
>> > performance, and that they thought about that scenario and decided that
>> > opening 2 x 1k files at once would be devastating? Get real mate,
>> > you're
>> > so
>> > far wrong it's embarrassing.

>>
>> No, that's part of WYSIWII. What You Select Is What Is Invoked. The
>> Open
>> With menu item only supports one selection, so it would be incorrect to
>> make
>> it available.
>>
>> I apologize if any of this seems indecisive: you may have a difference of
>> opinion, but this is definitively the way it works and why it works that
>> way.
>>

Quote:

>> > Basically, this is a bug, there's no two ways about it.

>>
>> OK: I had previously respected your difference of opinion by pointing out
>> that this behavior is by design for legacy style associations, and that
>> if
>> you disagree with the current implementation, your best resource would be
>> actual Product Support where you could attempt to garner support for an
>> update of some sort. I think we've run the gamut from determining the
>> behavior, explaining the behavior, and a possible resolution to the
>> behavior, so I think we're likely done here.
>>
>> I apologize for being inconsiderate and rude: it wasn't my intention.
>> I've
>> worked with a variety of external companies to help advise them on file
>> association issues, and I apologize that in my developer eagerness to
>> help
>> move you forward I was terse and forgot my manners.
>>
>>
>> It's interesting that it truncates the dialog at 15 units. I wonder if
>> that
>> is a configurable unit? Too bad there are no Vista PowerToys. I wonder
>> what things one might find if one ran a registry monitor. =\
>>
>> It is too bad that there are no Vista PowerToys. I enjoy that kind of
>> thing
>> and enjoy tinkering with my system.
>>
>> -Zach
>> --
>> Speaking for myself only.
>> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info.
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
>> rights.
>>
>>
>>
>>

02-12-2008	#18 (permalink)
Dave n/a posts	Re: Opening multiple files Patient: Doc, it hurts when I do this.... Doc: Don't do that. Patient: ow, ow, ow -- http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview "Feldspar" <lordwalsingham@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:5306AA76-5091-4E51-8717-6C93EF0956B1@xxxxxx Quote: > OK, I haven't read any new posts above as I'm tired of trolls. You're > obviously on a wind-up so I'm not gonna bother with you anymore. I'm going > to > try and find another forum where people a)actually have some knowledge of > MS > products - b)can and are willing to read English and understand things > like > context and what the main points are - c)aren't just looking to wind > people > up but genuinely want to help - d)don't deliberately seize on an example > and try and make that the main points because really they don't understand > and do not have an answer for the main points and they need to hide their > stupidity changing the focus. > > Please do flame on as I'll not be back, you have no credibility and you > certainly haven't helped me, answered my questions or moved the diagnostic > process on at all. Is this what you do all day? Shouldn't you get out > more? > Ta ra! > > > "zachd [MSFT]" wrote: > Quote: >> >> To others: the definitive differential in the file opening experience is >> based upon the application's shell association type. Legacy handlers are >> limited to 15 selections by default for performance reasons. >> Applications >> using modern shell association methods will not have this limitation. >> >> "Feldspar" <lordwalsingham@xxxxxx> wrote in message >> news:74942163-DC36-4511-B50C-BB4A11C2E2F4@xxxxxx Quote: >> > Once again, try reading my post before replying. >> >> I apologize for any misinterpretation in my attempts to clarify what is >> fairly evidently a Windows design. You're noticing a behavior, I was >> pointing out Why It Works That Way, which I had hoped would be >> illuminative. >> >> We're clearly not in disagreement over what happens here, right? The >> only >> question here was why, which I had hoped to provide some relevant insight >> upon. I apologize for failing in that regard. >> Quote: >> > It's nothing to do with performance and I wish you'd just drop that, >> > you're just flat wrong, why can't you admit it? >> >> I apologize: I did not mean to offend you in any fashion. I had thought >> that because I'm on the shell team, know the people responsible for this, >> and know the change in question, that my insight might be illuminative. >> I >> realize opinions will always vary, and I do respect and value yours. >> Quote: >> > Also, your answer doesn't at all address the problem of opening any >> > more >> > than just one (1) file at a time with Open With... As soon as I select >> > even >> > two files, the Open With... option disappears. Even two 1k text files. >> > Are >> > you really trying to tell me that they disabled that deliberately >> > because >> > of >> > performance, and that they thought about that scenario and decided that >> > opening 2 x 1k files at once would be devastating? Get real mate, >> > you're >> > so >> > far wrong it's embarrassing. >> >> No, that's part of WYSIWII. What You Select Is What Is Invoked. The >> Open >> With menu item only supports one selection, so it would be incorrect to >> make >> it available. >> >> I apologize if any of this seems indecisive: you may have a difference of >> opinion, but this is definitively the way it works and why it works that >> way. >> Quote: >> > Basically, this is a bug, there's no two ways about it. >> >> OK: I had previously respected your difference of opinion by pointing out >> that this behavior is by design for legacy style associations, and that >> if >> you disagree with the current implementation, your best resource would be >> actual Product Support where you could attempt to garner support for an >> update of some sort. I think we've run the gamut from determining the >> behavior, explaining the behavior, and a possible resolution to the >> behavior, so I think we're likely done here. >> >> I apologize for being inconsiderate and rude: it wasn't my intention. >> I've >> worked with a variety of external companies to help advise them on file >> association issues, and I apologize that in my developer eagerness to >> help >> move you forward I was terse and forgot my manners. >> >> >> It's interesting that it truncates the dialog at 15 units. I wonder if >> that >> is a configurable unit? Too bad there are no Vista PowerToys. I wonder >> what things one might find if one ran a registry monitor. =\ >> >> It is too bad that there are no Vista PowerToys. I enjoy that kind of >> thing >> and enjoy tinkering with my system. >> >> -Zach >> -- >> Speaking for myself only. >> See http://zachd.com/pss/pss.html for some helpful WMP info. >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >> rights. >> >> >> >>
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