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Old 02-22-2008   #1 (permalink)
Grant - CNW


 
 

Live Mail (Hotmail) servers inject encoding/header info when sent/received from hotmail.com accounts ONLY

The following QUESTION was posted to WINDOWS.VISTA.MAIL newsgroup but now
posted here as issue with WINDOWS LIVE MAIL (formerly HOTMAIL) service...
specifically, email servers embed encoding/header information in CONTENT of
email itself... but only when sending/receiving between HOTMAIL accounts.
See comments below for examples. Any idea as to how to remove this?
Something hotmail.com support has to address? ...Grant


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REFERENCE (from previous forum
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Confirmed... problem occurs when sending NEW or REPLY emails to HOTMAIL
recipients... other ISP email addresses work fine... I will follow-up with
Hotmail support... thanks for your help... Grant



"Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eUAouoLdIHA.3736@xxxxxx
Quote:

> Is this problem limited to replies sent to Hotmail recipients?
> That seems contrary to what you were saying before, about the problem
> occurring even when originating a new message in Windows Mail.
> If it is strictly a Hotmail problem, this is not the right forum for that.
> AFAIK, none of the regular responders here are Hotmail experts.
> --
> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>
>
> "Grant - CNW" <CNW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:225DFFA1-53F4-491F-98FE-491403723407@xxxxxx
Quote:

>> No anti-virus software is installed yet...
>> Ctrl-F3 shows the Message Header... the stuff I am seeing is prefix in
>> the content...
>> Perhaps the Hotmail service is adding this info? Emails sent between
>> hotmail.com users...
>> Seems to be issues with multi-part translation or character set-1252 ?
>>
>> I tried sending various encoded emails (Western European(ISO), Western
>> European(Windows), etc) to myself at hotmail and they all come in okay...
>> but if I reply to user's email (read in Western European(ISO)) and BCC
>> myself, it comes in with the encoding/charset info... see another example
>> attached from this morning... very strange...
>>
>> EXAMPLE
>> ======
>>
>> 2993A5E8230@xxxxxx> <BLU102-W11BD83B34D27DC8508DEC8A9230@xxxxxx>
>> Bcc: "Grant" <myemail@xxxxxx>
>> References: <BAY114-DS367541FEB4D763D2993A5E8230@xxxxxx>
>> <BLU102-W11BD83B34D27DC8508DEC8A9230@xxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: RE:
>> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 08:43:17 -0500
>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>> Content-Type: multipart/related;
>> type="multipart/alternative";
>> boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0060_01C87465.CDDB4F40"
>> X-Unsent: 1
>> X-Priority: 1
>> X-MSMail-Priority: High
>> Importance: High
>> X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606
>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606
>>
>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>>
>> ------=_NextPart_000_0060_01C87465.CDDB4F40
>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>> boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0061_01C87465.CDDB4F40"
>>
>>
>> ------=_NextPart_001_0061_01C87465.CDDB4F40
>> Content-Type: text/plain;
>> charset="Windows-1252"
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>
>> **********************************
>> EMAIL CONTENT HERE (removed)
>> **********************************
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Gary VanderMolen" <gary@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> news:e#iWacEdIHA.5416@xxxxxx
Quote:

>>> That's not MIME encoding. Those are normal headers that every
>>> message has, but normally you don't see those until you press
>>> Ctrl-F3. They certainly should not appear in the body of the
>>> email message. Can't say I've ever seen this problem before.
>>> One of the usual culprits for odd problems is your antivirus program.
>>> Which AV are you running? If McAfee or Norton, would you
>>> consider uninstalling it (as a test) to see if that cures the problem?
>>>
>>> --
>>> Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP (WLMail)
>>>
>>>
>>> "Grant - CNW" <CNW@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:14700D40-B5A1-44AF-8DFA-D8B4725040EC@xxxxxx
>>>>I migrated my email from Outlook Express to Windows Mail...
>>>> for the mosst part, I like the new features and support in the new Mail
>>>> program...
>>>> But I have come across one problem that I can't figure out...
>>>> searching the posts on this forum, no one else seems to be having the
>>>> same problem...
>>>>
>>>> When I send a new e-mail OR reply to an e-mail from a contact, the
>>>> email content is shifted to the bottom of the email and a ton (about
>>>> 30-50 lines) of MIME encoding information is imbedded in the top
>>>> portion of the email. I have tried changing encoding... to reply in
>>>> senders format... or default to Windows instead of ISO format... all
>>>> with no resolution.
>>>> People complain about the emails they get from me from my Windows Mail
>>>> account... but if I send from Outlook Express, from hotmail web
>>>> interface, or my Blackberry... all is good and encoding info is not
>>>> included. Seems to be some Windows Mail setup issue... running on
>>>> Vista Ultimate x64... with latest updates applied as of now...
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas? ...Grant
>>>>
>>>> Here's an example of encoding included... email addresses removed to
>>>> prevent SPAM...
>>>>
>>>>> From: myemail@xxxxxx
>>>>> To: friend@xxxxxx
>>>>> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 08:18:36 -0800
>>>>>
>>>>> 32392FE8230@xxxxxx> <BLU102-W960FC261AA880178B5835A9230@xxxxxx>
>>>>> Bcc: "Grant" <myemail@xxxxxx>
>>>>> References: <BAY114-DS11EBA8F5315470B32392FE8230@xxxxxx>
>>>>> <BLU102-W960FC261AA880178B5835A9230@xxxxxx>
>>>>> Subject: Re: RE:
>>>>> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:18:30 -0500
>>>>> MIME-Version: 1.0
>>>>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
>>>>> boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0026_01C873B2.52500D10"
>>>>> X-Unsent: 1
>>>>> X-Priority: 3
>>>>> X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
>>>>> Importance: Normal
>>>>> X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606
>>>>> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
>>>>>
>>>>> ------=_NextPart_000_0026_01C873B2.52500D10
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain;
>>>>> charset="Windows-1252"
>>>>> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
>>>>>
>>>>> email easier to read in this format/encoding? ...g
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> EEKS... what is all the stuff?
>>>>
>>>> More importantly, how do I turn it OFF?!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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