I wish there was an answer to this problem. I'm looking for an email client
that allows me to easily set up email filter rules with a minimum number of
clicks. I get hundreds of spam messages from individual email addresses,
and I would like to be able to click on a toolbar icon and add the 'from'
field to a 'ban and delete' rule. What's so hard about that?
As it stands now, the process is:
Click on properties for an email,
Highlight and save *just* the displayed 'from' name, (It frequently gets
confused if one uses the whole line)
Open Tools/Message Rules/Mail, and select a particular rule
Open the rule, paste the 'from' field, click 'add', and OK twice out of
the box
Proceed to next message and repeat.
It's a foolish waste of time and effort. This is something that should be
easy, not a throwback to the olden days.
And I agree with everything 'fewdots' said.
"fewdots" <fewdots@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:4019DB60-9352-4DE8-8917-76DC87408ED7@xxxxxx
Quote:
> As a rider to my previous posting.... I've checked the header of mails
> received from people not in my address book and they are in exactly the
> same
> format. The From name is not necessarily as it is on my own record but is
> taken from the user info when they have set up the account in their own
> mail
> application. I've just sent myself emails from different accounts and
> different applications (WLM & OE), changing the name in my account
> settings,
> and got a different result on each one!
>
> fewdots
>
> "fewdots" wrote:
> Quote:
>> Hi again Noel
>>
>> The problem is with ALL rules, not just the one. I've just checked the
>> header of a received message and (substituting real names, for example
>> purposes) the From line reads:
>>
>> From: "Fred Bloggs" <fbloggs@xxxxxx>
>>
>> So, the rule will work if I tell it to check for Fred Bloggs, but not if
>> I
>> ask it to check for fbloggs@xxxxxx, which is the default generated
>> by
>> adding from the Contact list or from a received message.
>>
>> fewdots
>>
>>
>> "Ildhund" wrote:
>> Quote:
>> > Unless there is a good reason for not doing so, all rules should end
>> > with
>> > Stop processing. Mark one of the messages that the <email address> rule
>> > doesn't work for and press Ctrl-F3 to expose the headers. Only one of
>> > the
>> > lines should start with "From:", and the only element it must contain
>> > according to RFC2822 is an email address. The name part is optional, so
>> > that's why an automatically formed rule looks for the address.
>> >
>> > If all your exclusive rules end with Stop processing..., I can't think
>> > why
>> > this is happening. Is the rule that's not working at the top of the
>> > list? If
>> > not, does it work if you move it to the top? What action is the rule
>> > supposed to carry out? If you change it to something else, like
>> > Highlight it
>> > with a colour, does it still not work? It's not entirely clear from
>> > your
>> > post whether this is a problem with all rules of this type (where the
>> > From
>> > line contains people) or just some of them.
>> > --
>> > Noel
>> >
>> > "fewdots" <fewdots@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > news:BD8DD738-95BC-416F-9990-9B1D4AF9BAC2@xxxxxx
>> >
>> > > Tried that but it doesn't work. The problem is that WLM wants to put
>> > > the
>> > > email address in the 'Where the From line contains' option but it
>> > > only
>> > > works
>> > > if you put the display name there.... because that's what actually
>> > > appears
>> > > on
>> > > the From field. I've tried this today on a virgin system and it's
>> > > still
>> > > wrong. However, creating an identical rule in an identical fashion
>> > > in OE
>> > > gives the display name and the rule is applied correctly.
>> > >
>> > > I apply rules to almost 800 contacts and the only way I can get then
>> > > to
>> > > apply is to manually enter the display name in the rule!!
>> >
>> > > "Ildhund" wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Did you finish off your rule with "and Stop processing more rules?"
>> > >> If
>> > >> not,
>> > >> try doing so and see if the rule works then. When setting up a rule
>> > >> for a
>> > >> number of contacts, you can select them all in the Contacts dialogue
>> > >> box
>> > >> before clicking To:
>> > >> --
>> > >> Noel
>> > >>
>> > >> "fewdots" <fewdots@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > >> news:9C0D9F1C-A580-4512-8D31-E1CBC3552F0E@xxxxxx
>> > >> > Hi RC
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Thank you for your response but I'm afraid that exactly the same
>> > >> > thing
>> > >> > happens when I create the rule from the message. It creates the
>> > >> > rule
>> > >> > for
>> > >> > fbloggs@xxxxxx but won't apply it until I change the 'from'
>> > >> > to
>> > >> > Fred
>> > >> > Bloggs, which is the contact name. That also doesn't help when I
>> > >> > need
>> > >> > to
>> > >> > create one rule for a group of people.... which has just given me
>> > >> > an
>> > >> > idea....
>> > >> > maybe I can include a block of individuals within a group and then
>> > >> > apply a
>> > >> > rule to the group?
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Very strange that an automatic process appears to be using a
>> > >> > different
>> > >> > criterion to the one that created it, which is why I wondered if I
>> > >> > was
>> > >> > missing a system parameter somewhere!
>> > >> >
>> > >> > fewdots
>> > >> >
>> > >> > "R. C. White" wrote:
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> Hi, fewdots.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> One way to handle this is to highlight Fred's message, then click
>> > >> >> Actions
>> > >> >> |
>> > >> >> Create rule from message. The Rules screen should open with the
>> > >> >> From...
>> > >> >> box
>> > >> >> already checked and Fred's full address already entered in the
>> > >> >> description
>> > >> >> box. You may edit it if you like, but what is already entered
>> > >> >> should
>> > >> >> be
>> > >> >> correct since it is taken from Fred's message. It probably will
>> > >> >> show
>> > >> >> both
>> > >> >> Fred Bloggs and his email address.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> RC
>> > >> >> --
>> > >> >> R. C. White, CPA
>> > >> >> San Marcos, TX
>> > >> >> rc@xxxxxx
>> > >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP
>> > >> >> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64)
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> "fewdots" <fewdots@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>> > >> >> news:C3E2F5A2-2D6F-49E7-B57C-B7747FE702F9@xxxxxx
>> > >> >> > v2008 (12.0.1606)
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > When I try to set up a message rules for several contacts I add
>> > >> >> > them
>> > >> >> > from
>> > >> >> > the contacts book. However the contact 'Fred Bloggs' has an
>> > >> >> > email
>> > >> >> > address
>> > >> >> > 'fbloggs@xxxxxx' and selecting him places the email
>> > >> >> > address,
>> > >> >> > rather
>> > >> >> > than the contact name, into the rule. As the message is
>> > >> >> > received
>> > >> >> > from
>> > >> >> > Fred
>> > >> >> > Bloggs, the rule is not applied.
>> > >> >> >
>> > >> >> > I have hundreds of contacts from a variety of organisations and
>> > >> >> > don't
>> > >> >> > want
>> > >> >> > to have to type these in manually. Am I doing something daft?
>> > >> >>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> >