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03-03-2008

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It won't help, tho, as spammers use a one time email address.

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"Averice" <Averice@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:OpaRKTVfIHA.748@xxxxxx

Quote:

> I wish there was an answer to this problem. I'm looking for an email
> client that allows me to easily set up email filter rules with a minimum
> number of clicks. I get hundreds of spam messages from individual email
> addresses, and I would like to be able to click on a toolbar icon and add
> the 'from' field to a 'ban and delete' rule. What's so hard about that?
> As it stands now, the process is:
> Click on properties for an email,
> Highlight and save *just* the displayed 'from' name, (It frequently
> gets confused if one uses the whole line)
> Open Tools/Message Rules/Mail, and select a particular rule
> Open the rule, paste the 'from' field, click 'add', and OK twice out of
> the box
> Proceed to next message and repeat.
>
> It's a foolish waste of time and effort. This is something that should be
> easy, not a throwback to the olden days.
> And I agree with everything 'fewdots' said.
>
> "fewdots" <fewdots@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:4019DB60-9352-4DE8-8917-76DC87408ED7@xxxxxx

Quote:

>> As a rider to my previous posting.... I've checked the header of mails
>> received from people not in my address book and they are in exactly the
>> same
>> format. The From name is not necessarily as it is on my own record but
>> is
>> taken from the user info when they have set up the account in their own
>> mail
>> application. I've just sent myself emails from different accounts and
>> different applications (WLM & OE), changing the name in my account
>> settings,
>> and got a different result on each one!
>>
>> fewdots
>>
>> "fewdots" wrote:
>>

Quote:

>>> Hi again Noel
>>>
>>> The problem is with ALL rules, not just the one. I've just checked the
>>> header of a received message and (substituting real names, for example
>>> purposes) the From line reads:
>>>
>>> From: "Fred Bloggs" <fbloggs@xxxxxx>
>>>
>>> So, the rule will work if I tell it to check for Fred Bloggs, but not if
>>> I
>>> ask it to check for fbloggs@xxxxxx, which is the default generated
>>> by
>>> adding from the Contact list or from a received message.
>>>
>>> fewdots
>>>
>>>
>>> "Ildhund" wrote:
>>>
>>> > Unless there is a good reason for not doing so, all rules should end
>>> > with
>>> > Stop processing. Mark one of the messages that the <email address>
>>> > rule
>>> > doesn't work for and press Ctrl-F3 to expose the headers. Only one of
>>> > the
>>> > lines should start with "From:", and the only element it must contain
>>> > according to RFC2822 is an email address. The name part is optional,
>>> > so
>>> > that's why an automatically formed rule looks for the address.
>>> >
>>> > If all your exclusive rules end with Stop processing..., I can't think
>>> > why
>>> > this is happening. Is the rule that's not working at the top of the
>>> > list? If
>>> > not, does it work if you move it to the top? What action is the rule
>>> > supposed to carry out? If you change it to something else, like
>>> > Highlight it
>>> > with a colour, does it still not work? It's not entirely clear from
>>> > your
>>> > post whether this is a problem with all rules of this type (where the
>>> > From
>>> > line contains people) or just some of them.
>>> > --
>>> > Noel
>>> >
>>> > "fewdots" <fewdots@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> > news:BD8DD738-95BC-416F-9990-9B1D4AF9BAC2@xxxxxx
>>> >
>>> > > Tried that but it doesn't work. The problem is that WLM wants to
>>> > > put the
>>> > > email address in the 'Where the From line contains' option but it
>>> > > only
>>> > > works
>>> > > if you put the display name there.... because that's what actually
>>> > > appears
>>> > > on
>>> > > the From field. I've tried this today on a virgin system and it's
>>> > > still
>>> > > wrong. However, creating an identical rule in an identical fashion
>>> > > in OE
>>> > > gives the display name and the rule is applied correctly.
>>> > >
>>> > > I apply rules to almost 800 contacts and the only way I can get then
>>> > > to
>>> > > apply is to manually enter the display name in the rule!!
>>> >
>>> > > "Ildhund" wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Did you finish off your rule with "and Stop processing more rules?"
>>> > >> If
>>> > >> not,
>>> > >> try doing so and see if the rule works then. When setting up a rule
>>> > >> for a
>>> > >> number of contacts, you can select them all in the Contacts
>>> > >> dialogue box
>>> > >> before clicking To:
>>> > >> --
>>> > >> Noel
>>> > >>
>>> > >> "fewdots" <fewdots@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> > >> news:9C0D9F1C-A580-4512-8D31-E1CBC3552F0E@xxxxxx
>>> > >> > Hi RC
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Thank you for your response but I'm afraid that exactly the same
>>> > >> > thing
>>> > >> > happens when I create the rule from the message. It creates the
>>> > >> > rule
>>> > >> > for
>>> > >> > fbloggs@xxxxxx but won't apply it until I change the 'from'
>>> > >> > to
>>> > >> > Fred
>>> > >> > Bloggs, which is the contact name. That also doesn't help when I
>>> > >> > need
>>> > >> > to
>>> > >> > create one rule for a group of people.... which has just given me
>>> > >> > an
>>> > >> > idea....
>>> > >> > maybe I can include a block of individuals within a group and
>>> > >> > then
>>> > >> > apply a
>>> > >> > rule to the group?
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > Very strange that an automatic process appears to be using a
>>> > >> > different
>>> > >> > criterion to the one that created it, which is why I wondered if
>>> > >> > I was
>>> > >> > missing a system parameter somewhere!
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > fewdots
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> > "R. C. White" wrote:
>>> > >> >
>>> > >> >> Hi, fewdots.
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> One way to handle this is to highlight Fred's message, then
>>> > >> >> click
>>> > >> >> Actions
>>> > >> >> |
>>> > >> >> Create rule from message. The Rules screen should open with the
>>> > >> >> From...
>>> > >> >> box
>>> > >> >> already checked and Fred's full address already entered in the
>>> > >> >> description
>>> > >> >> box. You may edit it if you like, but what is already entered
>>> > >> >> should
>>> > >> >> be
>>> > >> >> correct since it is taken from Fred's message. It probably will
>>> > >> >> show
>>> > >> >> both
>>> > >> >> Fred Bloggs and his email address.
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> RC
>>> > >> >> --
>>> > >> >> R. C. White, CPA
>>> > >> >> San Marcos, TX
>>> > >> >> rc@xxxxxx
>>> > >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP
>>> > >> >> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64)
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >> >> "fewdots" <fewdots@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> > >> >> news:C3E2F5A2-2D6F-49E7-B57C-B7747FE702F9@xxxxxx
>>> > >> >> > v2008 (12.0.1606)
>>> > >> >> >
>>> > >> >> > When I try to set up a message rules for several contacts I
>>> > >> >> > add them
>>> > >> >> > from
>>> > >> >> > the contacts book. However the contact 'Fred Bloggs' has an
>>> > >> >> > email
>>> > >> >> > address
>>> > >> >> > 'fbloggs@xxxxxx' and selecting him places the email
>>> > >> >> > address,
>>> > >> >> > rather
>>> > >> >> > than the contact name, into the rule. As the message is
>>> > >> >> > received
>>> > >> >> > from
>>> > >> >> > Fred
>>> > >> >> > Bloggs, the rule is not applied.
>>> > >> >> >
>>> > >> >> > I have hundreds of contacts from a variety of organisations
>>> > >> >> > and
>>> > >> >> > don't
>>> > >> >> > want
>>> > >> >> > to have to type these in manually. Am I doing something daft?
>>> > >> >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> >
>>> >

03-03-2008	#10 (permalink)
Dave n/a posts	Re: Message Rules right-click on the message, select Junk e-mail, Add sender to blocked sender list It won't help, tho, as spammers use a one time email address. -- http://get.live.com/wlmail/overview "Averice" <Averice@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:OpaRKTVfIHA.748@xxxxxx Quote: > I wish there was an answer to this problem. I'm looking for an email > client that allows me to easily set up email filter rules with a minimum > number of clicks. I get hundreds of spam messages from individual email > addresses, and I would like to be able to click on a toolbar icon and add > the 'from' field to a 'ban and delete' rule. What's so hard about that? > As it stands now, the process is: > Click on properties for an email, > Highlight and save just the displayed 'from' name, (It frequently > gets confused if one uses the whole line) > Open Tools/Message Rules/Mail, and select a particular rule > Open the rule, paste the 'from' field, click 'add', and OK twice out of > the box > Proceed to next message and repeat. > > It's a foolish waste of time and effort. This is something that should be > easy, not a throwback to the olden days. > And I agree with everything 'fewdots' said. > > "fewdots" <fewdots@xxxxxx> wrote in message > news:4019DB60-9352-4DE8-8917-76DC87408ED7@xxxxxx Quote: >> As a rider to my previous posting.... I've checked the header of mails >> received from people not in my address book and they are in exactly the >> same >> format. The From name is not necessarily as it is on my own record but >> is >> taken from the user info when they have set up the account in their own >> mail >> application. I've just sent myself emails from different accounts and >> different applications (WLM & OE), changing the name in my account >> settings, >> and got a different result on each one! >> >> fewdots >> >> "fewdots" wrote: >> Quote: >>> Hi again Noel >>> >>> The problem is with ALL rules, not just the one. I've just checked the >>> header of a received message and (substituting real names, for example >>> purposes) the From line reads: >>> >>> From: "Fred Bloggs" <fbloggs@xxxxxx> >>> >>> So, the rule will work if I tell it to check for Fred Bloggs, but not if >>> I >>> ask it to check for fbloggs@xxxxxx, which is the default generated >>> by >>> adding from the Contact list or from a received message. >>> >>> fewdots >>> >>> >>> "Ildhund" wrote: >>> >>> > Unless there is a good reason for not doing so, all rules should end >>> > with >>> > Stop processing. Mark one of the messages that the <email address> >>> > rule >>> > doesn't work for and press Ctrl-F3 to expose the headers. Only one of >>> > the >>> > lines should start with "From:", and the only element it must contain >>> > according to RFC2822 is an email address. The name part is optional, >>> > so >>> > that's why an automatically formed rule looks for the address. >>> > >>> > If all your exclusive rules end with Stop processing..., I can't think >>> > why >>> > this is happening. Is the rule that's not working at the top of the >>> > list? If >>> > not, does it work if you move it to the top? What action is the rule >>> > supposed to carry out? If you change it to something else, like >>> > Highlight it >>> > with a colour, does it still not work? It's not entirely clear from >>> > your >>> > post whether this is a problem with all rules of this type (where the >>> > From >>> > line contains people) or just some of them. >>> > -- >>> > Noel >>> > >>> > "fewdots" <fewdots@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> > news:BD8DD738-95BC-416F-9990-9B1D4AF9BAC2@xxxxxx >>> > >>> > > Tried that but it doesn't work. The problem is that WLM wants to >>> > > put the >>> > > email address in the 'Where the From line contains' option but it >>> > > only >>> > > works >>> > > if you put the display name there.... because that's what actually >>> > > appears >>> > > on >>> > > the From field. I've tried this today on a virgin system and it's >>> > > still >>> > > wrong. However, creating an identical rule in an identical fashion >>> > > in OE >>> > > gives the display name and the rule is applied correctly. >>> > > >>> > > I apply rules to almost 800 contacts and the only way I can get then >>> > > to >>> > > apply is to manually enter the display name in the rule!! >>> > >>> > > "Ildhund" wrote: >>> > > >>> > >> Did you finish off your rule with "and Stop processing more rules?" >>> > >> If >>> > >> not, >>> > >> try doing so and see if the rule works then. When setting up a rule >>> > >> for a >>> > >> number of contacts, you can select them all in the Contacts >>> > >> dialogue box >>> > >> before clicking To: >>> > >> -- >>> > >> Noel >>> > >> >>> > >> "fewdots" <fewdots@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> > >> news:9C0D9F1C-A580-4512-8D31-E1CBC3552F0E@xxxxxx >>> > >> > Hi RC >>> > >> > >>> > >> > Thank you for your response but I'm afraid that exactly the same >>> > >> > thing >>> > >> > happens when I create the rule from the message. It creates the >>> > >> > rule >>> > >> > for >>> > >> > fbloggs@xxxxxx but won't apply it until I change the 'from' >>> > >> > to >>> > >> > Fred >>> > >> > Bloggs, which is the contact name. That also doesn't help when I >>> > >> > need >>> > >> > to >>> > >> > create one rule for a group of people.... which has just given me >>> > >> > an >>> > >> > idea.... >>> > >> > maybe I can include a block of individuals within a group and >>> > >> > then >>> > >> > apply a >>> > >> > rule to the group? >>> > >> > >>> > >> > Very strange that an automatic process appears to be using a >>> > >> > different >>> > >> > criterion to the one that created it, which is why I wondered if >>> > >> > I was >>> > >> > missing a system parameter somewhere! >>> > >> > >>> > >> > fewdots >>> > >> > >>> > >> > "R. C. White" wrote: >>> > >> > >>> > >> >> Hi, fewdots. >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> One way to handle this is to highlight Fred's message, then >>> > >> >> click >>> > >> >> Actions >>> > >> >> \| >>> > >> >> Create rule from message. The Rules screen should open with the >>> > >> >> From... >>> > >> >> box >>> > >> >> already checked and Fred's full address already entered in the >>> > >> >> description >>> > >> >> box. You may edit it if you like, but what is already entered >>> > >> >> should >>> > >> >> be >>> > >> >> correct since it is taken from Fred's message. It probably will >>> > >> >> show >>> > >> >> both >>> > >> >> Fred Bloggs and his email address. >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> RC >>> > >> >> -- >>> > >> >> R. C. White, CPA >>> > >> >> San Marcos, TX >>> > >> >> rc@xxxxxx >>> > >> >> Microsoft Windows MVP >>> > >> >> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64) >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> "fewdots" <fewdots@xxxxxx> wrote in message >>> > >> >> news:C3E2F5A2-2D6F-49E7-B57C-B7747FE702F9@xxxxxx >>> > >> >> > v2008 (12.0.1606) >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > When I try to set up a message rules for several contacts I >>> > >> >> > add them >>> > >> >> > from >>> > >> >> > the contacts book. However the contact 'Fred Bloggs' has an >>> > >> >> > email >>> > >> >> > address >>> > >> >> > 'fbloggs@xxxxxx' and selecting him places the email >>> > >> >> > address, >>> > >> >> > rather >>> > >> >> > than the contact name, into the rule. As the message is >>> > >> >> > received >>> > >> >> > from >>> > >> >> > Fred >>> > >> >> > Bloggs, the rule is not applied. >>> > >> >> > >>> > >> >> > I have hundreds of contacts from a variety of organisations >>> > >> >> > and >>> > >> >> > don't >>> > >> >> > want >>> > >> >> > to have to type these in manually. Am I doing something daft? >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >>> >
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