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Old 03-08-2008   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Workgrouping in Vista Home

Ok Malke, what are we over looking. I have applied the instructions from the
link you provided and they are the same instructions I have been applying
for the last 24 hours. However, I am now back up to viewing files on my
laptop from my desktop but not the other way around.

I can not even view the files on my desktop from my desktop by going through
the network path. I keep getting network path not found error. I tried
renaming the computer and rebooting; failed. I tried updating the the
security/sharing users; failed. I go to networks and see computer 123 and
computer 345. I can click on 123 and see all shared folders and printers. I
click on 345 and see all folders and printers but when I click on any of the
folders, I get the error message.

As I mentioned to someone else, I've done this before and numerous times.
Truth is, I'm a layman intermediate. I was an additional duty Client Support
Administrator (CSA) for my job only a year ago before being transferred to
another country where my new office has a CSA where they use different front
ends to manage accounts on a domain. Now I can only learn as I go and
provide basic advise to help at work. At home is a different story with
Vista.

"Malke" <malke@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Quote:

> DM wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Am I interpreting the following correctly?
>>
>> NoteIf your computer is on a workgroup, you have the option of turning
>> password protection on or off. If password protection is turned on, the
>> person you are sharing with must have a user account and password on your
>> computer in order to access the files and folders you are sharing. You
>> can
>> turn password protection on or off in the Network and Sharing Center.
>>
>> If i have user (usera) on my laptop and want to access my desktop, do I
>> have to have an account named usera? The one time I was able to access my
>> lap top from the desk top, I didn't have similar user accounts. I was
>> prompted to log in and supplied a user name and it's password to an
>> account that was on the laptop and was able to see the folders and files.
>> After trying to access my desktop from the lap top, and reconfiguring
>> everything to make successful progress, now I can't access either
>> computer
>> from each other.
>>
>> I am getting the network path not found, although I am seeing the
>> computers as "Network Discovery" is working.
>>
>> Also, if I go to networks on my desktop, I can see my desktop and laptop
>> because "Network Discovery" is working, however, I can not even access my
>> desktop network. Is there something wrong with the firewall, sharing or
>> security settings? I have rights granted in both sharing and security and
>> have the firewall set to allow file sharing.
>
> Since you've asked for details, I'll give you my full standard networking
> troubleshooting reply which should answer your questions. I apologize for
> not giving you this first thing but I interpreted your first post as you
> only wanting something quick.
>
> ***
> Here are general network troubleshooting steps. Not everything may be
> applicable to your situation, so just take the bits that are. It may look
> daunting, but if you follow the steps at the links and suggestions below
> systematically and calmly, you will have no difficulty in setting up your
> sharing.
>
> Excellent, thorough, yet easy to understand article about File/Printer
> Sharing in Vista. Includes details about sharing printers as well as files
> and folders:
>
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb727037.aspx
>
> For XP, start by running the Network Setup Wizard on all machines (see
> caveat in Item A below).
>
> Problems sharing files between computers on a network are generally caused
> by 1) a misconfigured firewall; or 2) inadvertently running two firewalls
> such as the built-in Windows Firewall and a third-party firewall; and/or
> 3)
> not having identical user accounts and passwords on all Workgroup
> machines;
> 4) trying to create shares where the operating system does not permit it.
>
> For XP and Windows 2003 Server, MVP Hans-Georg Michna has an excellent
> small
> network troubleshooter. It may also be useful with Vista.
>
> http://winhlp.com/wxnet.htm
>
> Here are some general networking tips for home/small networks:
>
> A. Configure firewalls on all machines to allow the Local Area Network
> (LAN)
> traffic as trusted. With Windows Firewall, this means allowing
> File/Printer
> Sharing on the Exceptions tab. Normally running the Network Setup Wizard
> on
> XP will take care of this for those machines.The only "gotcha" is that
> this
> will turn on the XPSP2 Windows Firewall. If you aren't running a
> third-party firewall or have an antivirus with "Internet Worm
> Protection" (like Norton 2006/07) which acts as a firewall, then you're
> fine. With third-party firewalls, I usually configure the LAN allowance
> with an IP range. Ex. would be 192.168.1.0-192.168.1.254. Obviously you
> would substitute your correct subnet. Do not run more than one firewall.
>
> B. For ease of organization, put all computers in the same Workgroup. This
> is done from the System applet in Control Panel, Computer Name tab.
>
> C. Create matching user accounts and passwords on all machines. You do not
> need to be logged into the same account on all machines and the passwords
> assigned to each user account can be different; the accounts/passwords
> just
> need to exist and match on all machines. If you wish a machine to boot
> directly to the Desktop (into one particular user's account) for
> convenience, you can do this. The instructions at this link work for both
> XP and Vista:
>
> Configure Windows to Automatically Login (MVP Ramesh) -
> http://windowsxp.mvps.org/Autologon.htm
>
> D. If one or more of the computers is XP Pro or Media Center:
>
> 1. If you need Pro's ability to set fine-grained permissions, turn off
> Simple File Sharing (Folder Options>View tab) and create identical user
> accounts/passwords on all computers.
>
> 2. If you don't care about using Pro's advanced features, leave the Simple
> File Sharing enabled. Simple File Sharing means that Guest (network) is
> enabled. This means that anyone without a user account on the target
> system
> can use its resources. This is a security hole but only you can decide if
> it matters in your situation.
>
> E. Create shares as desired. XP Home does not permit sharing of users'
> home
> directories (My Documents) or Program Files, but you can share folders
> inside those directories. A better choice is to simply use the Shared
> Documents folder. See the first link above for details about Vista
> sharing.
>
> F. After you have file sharing working (and have tested this by exchanging
> a
> file between all machines), if you want to share a printer connected
> locally to one of your computers, share it out from that machine. Then go
> to the printer mftr.'s website and download the latest drivers for the
> correct operating system(s). Install them on the target machine(s). The
> printer should be seen during the installation routine. If it is not,
> install the drivers and then use the Add Printer Wizard.
> ***
>
> Malke
> --
> MS-MVP
> Elephant Boy Computers
> www.elephantboycomputers.com
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