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Old 05-14-2008   #7 (permalink)
Dima
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Re: Windows Vista x64 searches 5 times longer than Windows XP!

Why don't they reply then?
"Tom Ferguson" <tom.newsgroups@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>I am sure there are many who know how to "fix it", at least, in principle.
>And many of them are at Microsoft. <g>
>
> Without going into the details of search theory or methods of
> implementation: It could well be that nothing is actually broken so does
> not need fixing in the strict sense. Possibly, the search algorithms are
> performing exactly as designed. However, it also might be true that they
> could be better implemented. For example, they could be recoded into
> assembly or direct machine code-seldom done now-but that's a topic for a
> different place and time. As one example of a fast search-isoHunt, a
> Torrent search engine, is very rapid considering the vast quantity of
> data indexed however it retunes a quantity of false positives.
>
> In designing any program, there are many trade-offs. All of them affect
> the search speed. E.g. Do you do a full, all storage devices search or
> limit it to a particular set of locations (Vista actually allows the user
> to modify to search entire index or just user files). How highly do you
> value reliability (same results on repeated searches of the same data),
> accuracy/fuzziness (result matches target/result is a near match), &c. But
> Here I am probably not saying anything you don't know.
>
> In short, if it's not too late for that, we can be certain that these are
> matters that are routinely reviewed as development goes forward as halting
> and retrograde as that motion sometimes appears.
> --
>
> Tom
> MSMVP 1998-2007
>
>
> "Dima" <kopn@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> No, I have not find any new information. It's strange that nobody knows a
>> resolution to the slow search in Vista!
>> "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> Hi, Dima.
>>>
>>> Is there an echo in here?
>>>
>>> This sounds like the discussion we had here a week or two ago. Yes,
>>> here it is: started by you on 4/28/08, Subject: Why does Windows Vista
>>> x64 search so long? Like this current post, it was cross-posted to 3
>>> NGs; that thread has 9 posts, of which 5 were from you. One is from me,
>>> one from Tony Sperling and 2 from Colin Barnhorst.
>>>
>>> The bulk of your current post is a cut-n-pasted direct quote from my
>>> post of 4/28/08 in that other thread. I don't mind your using my
>>> description of the problem, but whenever you "borrow" text from
>>> somewhere, common courtesy (and Netiquette) requires that you identify
>>> the source.
>>>
>>> Have you found new information about this problem, Dima? Or are you
>>> just asking the same question again?
>>>
>>> RC
>>> --
>>> R. C. White, CPA
>>> San Marcos, TX
>>> rc@xxxxxx
>>> Microsoft Windows MVP
>>> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
>>>
>>> "Dima" <kopn@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>>> Hello!
>>>> Why does Windows Vista x64 search so long, especially when the progress
>>>> in the bar is at the end and the ring is rolling (a replacement for the
>>>> sand glass)?
>>>> When a search is not "nearly instantaneous" it takes nearly forever.
>>>> That is, when you ask for an Advanced Search of Computer, the bar first
>>>> goes half-way across fairly quickly. Then it goes more slowly to about
>>>> 3/4 of the way, appearing to redraw the bar every second or so, then
>>>> more slowly still to 7/8, etc., getting closer to the end with each
>>>> redraw - but never quite reaching the end. I watch hopefully as it
>>>> gets to the little down-pointing triangle, thinking that it will give
>>>> up when it gets there and report that it can't find what it's searching
>>>> for. But it doesn't. It keeps creeping further, past the vertical
>>>> separator at the end of the Address Bar, and then at a maddeningly slow
>>>> pace across the red "X" and... hours later, the green bar is still
>>>> being redrawn and it STILL hasn't got to the end.
>>>> Windows XP Pro on the same computer (but on another HDD) searches for
>>>> the same files (on all HDDs) five times faster.
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> Dima
>>>
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