05-14-2008
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Re: Windows Vista x64 searches 5 times longer than Windows XP! This is a peer-to-peer newsgroup and does not have monitors or moderators.
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"Dima" <kopn@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Why don't they reply then?
> "Tom Ferguson" <tom.newsgroups@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>I am sure there are many who know how to "fix it", at least, in principle.
>>And many of them are at Microsoft. <g>
>>
>> Without going into the details of search theory or methods of
>> implementation: It could well be that nothing is actually broken so does
>> not need fixing in the strict sense. Possibly, the search algorithms are
>> performing exactly as designed. However, it also might be true that they
>> could be better implemented. For example, they could be recoded into
>> assembly or direct machine code-seldom done now-but that's a topic for a
>> different place and time. As one example of a fast search-isoHunt, a
>> Torrent search engine, is very rapid considering the vast quantity of
>> data indexed however it retunes a quantity of false positives.
>>
>> In designing any program, there are many trade-offs. All of them affect
>> the search speed. E.g. Do you do a full, all storage devices search or
>> limit it to a particular set of locations (Vista actually allows the user
>> to modify to search entire index or just user files). How highly do you
>> value reliability (same results on repeated searches of the same data),
>> accuracy/fuzziness (result matches target/result is a near match), &c.
>> But Here I am probably not saying anything you don't know.
>>
>> In short, if it's not too late for that, we can be certain that these are
>> matters that are routinely reviewed as development goes forward as
>> halting and retrograde as that motion sometimes appears.
>> --
>>
>> Tom
>> MSMVP 1998-2007
>>
>>
>> "Dima" <kopn@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>>> No, I have not find any new information. It's strange that nobody knows
>>> a resolution to the slow search in Vista!
>>> "R. C. White" <rc@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>> news:C9056DE7-49E1-4F39-A329-68465C4CB203@xxxxxx
>>>> Hi, Dima.
>>>>
>>>> Is there an echo in here?
>>>>
>>>> This sounds like the discussion we had here a week or two ago. Yes,
>>>> here it is: started by you on 4/28/08, Subject: Why does Windows
>>>> Vista x64 search so long? Like this current post, it was cross-posted
>>>> to 3 NGs; that thread has 9 posts, of which 5 were from you. One is
>>>> from me, one from Tony Sperling and 2 from Colin Barnhorst.
>>>>
>>>> The bulk of your current post is a cut-n-pasted direct quote from my
>>>> post of 4/28/08 in that other thread. I don't mind your using my
>>>> description of the problem, but whenever you "borrow" text from
>>>> somewhere, common courtesy (and Netiquette) requires that you identify
>>>> the source.
>>>>
>>>> Have you found new information about this problem, Dima? Or are you
>>>> just asking the same question again?
>>>>
>>>> RC
>>>> --
>>>> R. C. White, CPA
>>>> San Marcos, TX
>>>> rc@xxxxxx
>>>> Microsoft Windows MVP
>>>> (Running Windows Live Mail 2008 in Vista Ultimate x64 SP1)
>>>>
>>>> "Dima" <kopn@xxxxxx> wrote in message
>>>> news:#uU#J3ssIHA.4544@xxxxxx
>>>>> Hello!
>>>>> Why does Windows Vista x64 search so long, especially when the
>>>>> progress in the bar is at the end and the ring is rolling (a
>>>>> replacement for the sand glass)?
>>>>> When a search is not "nearly instantaneous" it takes nearly forever.
>>>>> That is, when you ask for an Advanced Search of Computer, the bar
>>>>> first goes half-way across fairly quickly. Then it goes more slowly
>>>>> to about 3/4 of the way, appearing to redraw the bar every second or
>>>>> so, then more slowly still to 7/8, etc., getting closer to the end
>>>>> with each redraw - but never quite reaching the end. I watch
>>>>> hopefully as it gets to the little down-pointing triangle, thinking
>>>>> that it will give up when it gets there and report that it can't find
>>>>> what it's searching for. But it doesn't. It keeps creeping further,
>>>>> past the vertical separator at the end of the Address Bar, and then at
>>>>> a maddeningly slow pace across the red "X" and... hours later, the
>>>>> green bar is still being redrawn and it STILL hasn't got to the end.
>>>>> Windows XP Pro on the same computer (but on another HDD) searches for
>>>>> the same files (on all HDDs) five times faster.
>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>> Dima
>>>>
>>>
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