"Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> "Bob Lucas" <bob@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> Quote:
>> I have also configured Windows Live Mail to sort contacts
>> alphabetically - surname first. However, if I use the contact list
>> to send a message to Joe Bloggs, the resulting email shows
>> the addressee's name as Bloggs Joe. In this respect, Outlook
>> Express and the Hotmail webmail interface are much better.
>> Is there any way of configuring the contacts list in Windows
>> Live Mail to sort the list by Surname - but to send outgoing
> emails with the addressee as Joe Bloggs, not Bloggs Joe?
>
> You're talking about two different settings here. Quote:
> In the Contacts window (list view), you can *sort* by any of the
> visible fields, including surname, simply by clicking on the column
> heading.
YES AND NO. If there is a Nickname, Windows Live Mail will sort the
contact list alphabetically by Nickname. Consequenly, a nickname of
"Bob Lucas" will sort under "B". A nickname of "Lucas Bob" will sort
under "L".
If there is no Nickname, Windows Live Mail will sort by First Name OR by
Last Name, depending upon your personal settings. Clicking at the top
of the Name column merely sorts the names in ascending or descending
alphabetical order. Clicking at the top of the column does not affect
whether Windows Live Mail sorts by First Name or by Last Name.
Windows Live Mail can also sort by email address, if you click at the
top of that column.
Quote:
> Another setting in the View menu of the contacts window is '*Show*
> *names* as first last'. This applies only to the Name field, which is
> generated by WLMail and contains Nickname if there is one and First
> name Last name if there isn't. If these are absent too, it uses the
> preferred (I think) email address. This is the field that appears,
> together with email address(es) if you select the icon next to To:
> etc. in a compose window and gets written to the addressee field. If
> it really means a lot to you, there's nothing to stop you manually
> populating the Nickname field with, say, First name Last name. This
> will override the 'Show names...' setting. It wouldn't take long to
> export your contacts to csv, open the csv in Excel and insert a little
> formula to fill the Nickname column, save as csv and reimport.
>
> I find I never use either of these when composing a message. In your
> case, I bet the right contact would come up with one click and two
> keystrokes: New, then sm. Only if you have more than 30 contacts with
> the same combination of letters (sm) will you even have to scroll to
> pick the right one.
> --
> Noel
I presume your instructions relate to Windows Live Mail, as opposed to
Live Hotmail (webmail interface) or Windows Live Messenger. I have
tested your instructions with one contact but unfortunately, they did
not have the desired effect.
I have never used nicknames in Windows Live Mail for any of my contacts.
However, as a test, I added the nickname "Lucas Bob" to one of my own
POP3 email addresses. With this nickname, Windows Live Mail sorted my
name under the first character of the nickname, namely "L".
Then, in the view menu of Windows Live Mail, I selected "Sort by First
Name / Last Name". I discovered that use of a nickname overrides all
other sort options. With the nickname of Lucas Bob, Windows Live Mail
sorts the contact list alphabetically, so my contact name still appears
under "L" - not "B". So far, so good.
However, if I instruct Windows Live Mail to sort by First Name / Last
Name,it still inserts the nickname "Lucas Bob" in outgoing emails - NOT
"Bob Lucas". In other words, the "Sort Last Name / First Name" option
and the "Sort First Name / Last Name" option don't work, if a contact
has a nickname.
I repeat - I want to sort the contact list in Windows Live Mail by
Surname - not by First name. I also want the addressee's name in
outgoing emails to appear as "Bob Lucas" - not "Lucas Bob".
I have remove all nicknames once again - they seem to serve no useful
purpose.