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Old 06-11-2008   #3 (permalink)
Ian Crisp


 
 

Re: Virtual PC 2007 SP1 64 bit on Windows Server 2008 standard 64

Thanks Robert

A sideways look at the problem!

I got RDP working to Hyper-V with sound and 24 bit color. cool

thanks again
Ian

"Robert Comer" wrote:
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> >My question is, how do I get Virtual PC 2007 SP1 64 bit to run on a
> >'Hardware DEP' enabled machine running Windows Server 2008 SP1 64 bit?
>
> The short answer is you can't if you're running Hyper-V too, the
> hypervisor has control of the CPU and via virtualization, wont let
> another higher level app even see that HW Virtualization is available.
>
> Your speed problems really can't be helped and it's actually kind of a
> miracle that VPC can run at all -- it just goes to show how hard the
> virtualization team at Microsoft worked to get VM's so compatible with
> real machines.
>
> To get sound and 32-bit color in a VM is actually not all that hard in
> Hyper-V anyway, just don' connect to the VM with Hyper-V's console,
> use the normal RDP client instead, and have the VM's OS set to be able
> to access the remote desktop. You can get odd screen resolutions that
> way too where the Hyper-V console doesn't allow things like wide
> screen. (1200x800 on my laptop) There's really no speed penalty for
> using normal RDP either...
>
> --
> Bob Comer
>
>
>
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:33:15 -0700, Ian Crisp
> <IanCrisp@xxxxxx> wrote:
>
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> >I have a curious experience which i do not understand so thought I'd ask for
> >some assistance. Basically I get slow running guest OS in VPC 2007 SP1 64 bit
> >when running on Windows Server standard 2008 64 bit. The synopsis is as
> >follows:
> >
> >I have a fresh install of Windows 2008 standard SP1 64 bit as I was going to
> >test out Hyper-V. I enabled hardware DEP and Virtualization Technologies in
> >the BIOS and Hyper-V runs lovely and with fast guests OS's. Good with server
> >guests but no sound support and only 16bit colour.
> >
> >However, I have an XP Pro SP3 32 bit guest (that I've been using for
> >sometime in VPC 2007 on another host) that I want 32 bit colour and sound so
> >I thought I'd install Virtual PC 2007 SP1 64 bit and try it out on that, my
> >thinking was to use Hyper-V for server guests and VPC for client guests on
> >the same Win 2K8 host.
> >
> >I noticed that VPC runs the guest but it is painfully slow and it does not
> >recognise 'Hardware Virtualization' in the VPC Options dialog - it i greyed
> >out (but I have it turned on in the BIOS). After some experiments, I found
> >that if I leave Hardware Visualization enabled in the BIOS but disable
> >Hardware DEP in the BIOS, then the VPC recognises Hardware Virtualisation and
> >the guest runs really fast (faster than expected in fact ). However,
> >without DEP, Hyper-V won't run.
> >
> >My question is, how do I get Virtual PC 2007 SP1 64 bit to run on a
> >'Hardware DEP' enabled machine running Windows Server 2008 SP1 64 bit?
> >
> >Note, I was running Vista Ultimate 32 bit on the same hardware before with
> >both Hardware DEP enabled and Hardware Virtualization enabled in the BIOS and
> >VPC 2007 SP1 worked brilliantly - suggesting that the hardware/BIOS is
> >working properly.
> >
> >Note 2, Virtual Machine additions is installed in the guest OS.
> >
> >Ideally I'd like to enable Hardware DEP and Hardware Visualization to run
> >both Hyper-V and VPC simultaneously.
> >
> >Thanks in advance
> >Ian
>
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