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Old 06-11-2008   #4 (permalink)
Robert Comer


 
 

Re: Virtual PC 2007 SP1 64 bit on Windows Server 2008 standard 64

>Thanks Robert

You're quite welcome!
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>A sideways look at the problem!
Sometimes that's best. <g>

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Bob Comer <Microsoft MVP Windows - Virtual Machine>



On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 14:11:01 -0700, Ian Crisp
<IanCrisp@xxxxxx> wrote:
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>Thanks Robert
>
>A sideways look at the problem!
>
>I got RDP working to Hyper-V with sound and 24 bit color. cool
>
>thanks again
>Ian
>
>"Robert Comer" wrote:
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>> >My question is, how do I get Virtual PC 2007 SP1 64 bit to run on a
>> >'Hardware DEP' enabled machine running Windows Server 2008 SP1 64 bit?
>>
>> The short answer is you can't if you're running Hyper-V too, the
>> hypervisor has control of the CPU and via virtualization, wont let
>> another higher level app even see that HW Virtualization is available.
>>
>> Your speed problems really can't be helped and it's actually kind of a
>> miracle that VPC can run at all -- it just goes to show how hard the
>> virtualization team at Microsoft worked to get VM's so compatible with
>> real machines.
>>
>> To get sound and 32-bit color in a VM is actually not all that hard in
>> Hyper-V anyway, just don' connect to the VM with Hyper-V's console,
>> use the normal RDP client instead, and have the VM's OS set to be able
>> to access the remote desktop. You can get odd screen resolutions that
>> way too where the Hyper-V console doesn't allow things like wide
>> screen. (1200x800 on my laptop) There's really no speed penalty for
>> using normal RDP either...
>>
>> --
>> Bob Comer
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 03:33:15 -0700, Ian Crisp
>> <IanCrisp@xxxxxx> wrote:
>>
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>> >I have a curious experience which i do not understand so thought I'd ask for
>> >some assistance. Basically I get slow running guest OS in VPC 2007 SP1 64 bit
>> >when running on Windows Server standard 2008 64 bit. The synopsis is as
>> >follows:
>> >
>> >I have a fresh install of Windows 2008 standard SP1 64 bit as I was going to
>> >test out Hyper-V. I enabled hardware DEP and Virtualization Technologies in
>> >the BIOS and Hyper-V runs lovely and with fast guests OS's. Good with server
>> >guests but no sound support and only 16bit colour.
>> >
>> >However, I have an XP Pro SP3 32 bit guest (that I've been using for
>> >sometime in VPC 2007 on another host) that I want 32 bit colour and sound so
>> >I thought I'd install Virtual PC 2007 SP1 64 bit and try it out on that, my
>> >thinking was to use Hyper-V for server guests and VPC for client guests on
>> >the same Win 2K8 host.
>> >
>> >I noticed that VPC runs the guest but it is painfully slow and it does not
>> >recognise 'Hardware Virtualization' in the VPC Options dialog - it i greyed
>> >out (but I have it turned on in the BIOS). After some experiments, I found
>> >that if I leave Hardware Visualization enabled in the BIOS but disable
>> >Hardware DEP in the BIOS, then the VPC recognises Hardware Virtualisation and
>> >the guest runs really fast (faster than expected in fact ). However,
>> >without DEP, Hyper-V won't run.
>> >
>> >My question is, how do I get Virtual PC 2007 SP1 64 bit to run on a
>> >'Hardware DEP' enabled machine running Windows Server 2008 SP1 64 bit?
>> >
>> >Note, I was running Vista Ultimate 32 bit on the same hardware before with
>> >both Hardware DEP enabled and Hardware Virtualization enabled in the BIOS and
>> >VPC 2007 SP1 worked brilliantly - suggesting that the hardware/BIOS is
>> >working properly.
>> >
>> >Note 2, Virtual Machine additions is installed in the guest OS.
>> >
>> >Ideally I'd like to enable Hardware DEP and Hardware Visualization to run
>> >both Hyper-V and VPC simultaneously.
>> >
>> >Thanks in advance
>> >Ian
>>
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