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Old 09-30-2008   #8 (permalink)
Paul Montgumdrop


 
 

Re: Windows Vista is pure horror

Gordon wrote:
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> "Paul Montgumdrop" <Paul@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> For Win NT and up, the user will run with full admin rights, because
>> that's what they do make no mistake about it.
>
> Eh? I'm running Vista as a Standard User........that's what it's
> designed to do.....
No, I am running on Vista as user/admin with the user/admin having two
security tokens. One is an admin full rights token, and one is a
Standard user rights token. The default token that is assigned to the
user/admin is the Standard rights token.

The user/admin on Vista with UAC is escalated to use the admin full
rights token only for the moment of escalation, and the user/admin is
returned to using the Standard user token.

So user/admin on Vista with UAC enabled, I am a Standard user for the
most part.

One can use that hidden Super User account that is an admin account that
has full rights all the time, no escalation is required, which is
actually the Administrator account that is used on XP and Win 2k. But a
new user/admin account on Vista does not inherit full rights from the
hidden Administrator account, like a new user/admin that inherits full
rights from the Administrator account on the other platforms.

And on the other platforms, users are running on the platform as
user/admin with full rights, make no mistake about it that it is what
they are doing.

But not on Vista are they doing it if running as user/admin. There are
some other ways you can tell that you are not an user/admin on Vista and
you do not have full rights, and you will never have full rights even
with UAC enabled or disabled.

The only one that could possibly do certain things in that situation is
the hidden admin account, but I have not tested it.

Can I pull you back to the runway?


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