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Old 10-10-2008   #7 (permalink)
Dave S.


 
 

Re: vista ultimate 64-bit default programs and IE7 default email p

Hi!

The issue is not that I don't know what to do or how to proceed or that I am
currently having a problem. As a matter of fact, for me, there is no issue. I
long ago became aware of 2 facts: 1) Microsoft Windows will have problems. 2)
Unless they are showstoppers, the chances of an individual problem being
corrected are slim and none.

I was merely adding my observations and the way I had handled the problem to
the stack in hopes that others who were having the same/similar problems
would be helped...

Rather than duplicate this message in a half dozen places, I put it here and
referenced it in a half dozen places...

Not meaning to sound peevish (you all have been trying to help and I do
appreciate that!:-), but I've spent about all the bandwidth I have to spare
on this one...

"PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
Quote:

> Are you running Vista or Vista SP1, Dave?
>
> What anti-virus application or security suite is installed? What
> anti-spyware applications (other than Defender)? What third-party firewall
> (if any)?
>
Quote:
Quote:

> >> Open the Default Programs applet, which you can access either from
> >> the Start menu or via the Control Panel, then click the first item:
> >> "Set your default programs."
> >> After a few seconds, a list of programs comes up. Click on "Windows
> >> Mail". If it doesn't respond with "This program has all its defaults"
> >> then fix it by clicking on the option indicated by the first green arrow.
>
> Have you done all of the above (from Gary's reply) yet? If you have but the
> changes don't "stick", one or more options/settings in an ever-growing
> number of third-party applications may be disallowing the changes. These
> include but are not limited to Ad-aware Pro Ad-Watch, Spybot Tea Timer,
> SpywareBlaster, SpySweeper, Spyware Doctor, CounterSpy, AVG Anti-Spyware,
> Norton AntiVirus, McAfee VirusScan and/or Antispyware, NOD32, and Zone Alarm
> (Free, Pro, & Security Suite).
>
Quote:

> > ...when I clicked on a mail link in IE7 I did not get
> > Windows Mail, but, rather, Outlook
>
> Is Outlook still installed? Have you recently installed one or more Outlook
> Updates?
>
> Microsoft Outlook updates change the default mail handler to Microsoft
> Outlook (ignore the reference to Outlook Express)
> http://www.oehelp.com/OETips.aspx#13
> --
> ~Robear Dyer (PA Bear)
> MS MVP-IE, Mail, Security, Windows Desktop Experience - since 2002
> AumHa VSOP & Admin http://aumha.net
> DTS-L http://dts-l.net/
>
> Dave S. wrote:
Quote:

> > That is where it was set, in Control Panel > Programs > Default Programs
Quote:

> > >
> > Set Default Programs. But when I clicked on a mail link in IE7 I did not
> > get
> > Windows Mail, but, rather, Outlook, the _previous_ default program (from
> > installing Office). I had to open Tools > Internet Options > Programs >
> > Set
> > programs, to get IE7 mail links to use Windows Mail.
> >
> > In looking back over my posting, I believe I've made the _exact_
> > circumstances quite plain. Could it be that readers are keying off
> > certain,
> > out of context, terms/words/phrases and reacting to them instead of the
> > overall scenario... ?
> >
> > At any rate, it did happen, and exactly as explained. It would also seem
> > that there are enough indications from other posts that something is
> > amiss...
> >
> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
Quote:

> >> It's not an IE7 issue.
> >> There seems to be a common misunderstanding that setting the
> >> default email client will also assign all the protocols (such as MailTo)
> >> to that client. Regrettably that is *not* the case. Often an extra step
> >> is needed:
> >> Open the Default Programs applet, which you can access either from
> >> the Start menu or via the Control Panel, then click the first item:
> >> "Set your default programs."
> >> After a few seconds, a list of programs comes up. Click on "Windows
> >> Mail". If it doesn't respond with "This program has all its defaults"
> >> then fix it by clicking on the option indicated by the first green arrow.
> >>
> >> "PA Bear [MS MVP]" wrote:
> >>> [Crossposted to Vista Mail newsgroup for broader exposure.]
> >>>
> >>> What you're seeing (or not seeing) may be caused by UAC, Dave.
> >>>
> >>> Dave S. wrote:
> >>>> I probably didn't explain too well. My point was not that Outlook took
> >>>> over as default email client, my point was that setting/resetting the
> >>>> default email client in the client itself or via the control panel did
> >>>> not get reflected in IE7. IE7 still used whatever the previous default
> >>>> client was until the control panel was opened _in_ IE7. For other usage
> >>>> the default client was correct. It only seemed to apply to IE7
> >>>> displayed
> >>>> email links (the so-called "Mail To" protocol).
> >>>>
> >>>> Clearly this has nothing to do with who "steals" or "appropriates" the
> >>>> default status. It has to do with the fact that there seems to be a
> >>>> communication breakdown between the system and IE7. Such that resetting
> >>>> the system _and_ resetting IE7 seems to be necessary.
> >>>>
> >>>> To avoid further confusion, "resetting IE7" is the simple act of
> >>>> opening
> >>>> the Tools > Internet Options > Programs dialog. No action is needed
> >>>> there if the control panel or the new default client has already set
> >>>> the
> >>>> default. It tends to lead me to believe that IE7 has a private cache
> >>>> somewhere that is not being refreshed...
> >>>>
> >>>> I hope this is clearer...
> >>>>
> >>>> "Don Varnau" wrote:
> >>>>> Outlook hijacks the default mail setting and will do again so any time
> >>>>> Windows/Microsoft update installs an update for Outlook, such as the
> >>>>> junk mail filter.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you don't use Outlook, uninstall it. If you're using Outlook, you
> >>>>> will have to reset the e-mail default occasionally.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Dave S." <DaveS@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:A78D9D1B-DBA0-4396-8E25-2BF086EE890A@xxxxxx
> >>>>>> Ref: Selection of mail link on web doesn't work with Windows (Vista)
> >>>>>> Mail in microsoft.public.internetexplorer.general
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> There seems to be a place where the ball is dropped between:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Control Panel\Programs\Default Programs\Set Default Programs
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> and:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> IE7\Tools\Internet Options\Programs
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> which does not automagically set IE7 from the Control Panel.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For example, I had Windows Mail originally set as my default email
> >>>>>> program in the Control Panel (installation default). On subsequently
> >>>>>> installing a trial for Microsoft Office, Outlook was set as the
> >>>>>> default email program. I reset Windows Mail as the default email
> >>>>>> program in the Control Panel (which reset the Mail To protocol
> >>>>>> default), but on selecting email links in IE7 I still got Microsoft
> >>>>>> Outlook (???). I opened Programs in Internet Options in IE7 (making
> >>>>>> no
> >>>>>> changes) and Windows Mail was listed as the default email program
> >>>>>> when
> >>>>>> IE7 linked to the Control Panel for settings. I then closed the
> >>>>>> Control Panel connection and IE7 Internet Options. Now the email
> >>>>>> links
> >>>>>> displayed in IE7 opened a Compose dialog in Windows Mail (???).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> It would seem that installations of potential email handlers for Mail
> >>>>>> To protocol do both operations behind the scenes, i.e., setting
> >>>>>> Control Panel Default Programs as well as IE7 Internet Options
> >>>>>> Programs.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I think most users would expect (logically) that making settings in
> >>>>>> the
> >>>>>> Control Panel would be reflected by all programs that use it for
> >>>>>> managing settings (as does IE7 under Vista Ultimate 64-bit).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> jmtcw:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> ------------
> >>>>>> This post is a suggestion for Microsoft...
>
>
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