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Old 11-18-2008   #7 (permalink)
Peter Foldes


 
 

Re: Speculation: WLO discontinue June 2009

> Windows Live OneCare includes:
Quote:

>
> -- An excellent antivirus application
They are using the Rav engine Technology which they (MS) purchased about 5 yrs ago. Rav a Romanian Company based in Bucharest who supplied all the Eastern Block countries with their Security Software

http://www.ravantivirus.com/

Look at the announcement in the middle of the site when opened. Links on the left side do not work since the purchase and on the right had side is something else altogether
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Peter

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"Kayman" <kaymanDeleteThis@xxxxxx> wrote in message news:u$BkymeSJHA.5200@xxxxxx[quote]
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2008 18:10:04 -0500, Andre Da Costa wrote:
>
Quote:

>> Thought I would post this here:
>> "In a very surprising move, Microsoft has announced today that Windows Live
>> OneCare customers will be getting the shaft next year.
>
> No surprise to me!
> It's about time that the program engineers get their say!
>
> The OneCare package includes various additional software and it is
> suggested that there is no need to install a multitude of different
> security software. At first glance this seems to be fair enough.
> Also, I read somewhere:
>
Quote:
> What makes OneCare unique is that it essentially provides many of the
> centrally-managed IT administrative functionality one might expect in a
> corporate environment, but to home users. But instead of providing a human
> administrator, Microsoft provides an Internet-based service that works
> continually and automatically and is always up to date. You only deal with
> OneCare, per se, when something goes wrong. And if something really goes
> wrong, Microsoft is providing support via phone, email, or Web chat.
> [unquote]
>
> I am not sure if this is representing real value as assistance,
> troubleshoot advice can be obtained freely from various newsgroups and/or
> fora and good quality freeware can be configured to update automatically.
>
> So, let's examine this package more closely from a (non-expert) users
> point-of-view and if Windows Live OneCare represents real dollar value for
> the average homeuser.
>
> Windows Live OneCare includes:
>
> -- An excellent antivirus application --
>
> Many experts used to suggest that Windows Live OneCare is on the bottom of
> the list as far as finding viruses\malware\trojans.
> However, I understand that the new version of this (OneCare) AV application
> has changed for the better and the virus catchrate has improved
> significantly. It is debatable however if OneCare AV is significantly
> better compared to good quality free-ware application such as Avira
> AntiVirŽ Personal or avast! 4 Home Edition. Even if OneCare is an equally
> good AV application, you'd still have to fork out dollars.
> So, as far as performance is concerned why would anybody considering
> purchasing OneCare?
>
> -- An excellent firewall application --.
>
> An excellent firewall application is already included in both WinXP and
> Vista operating systems.
>
> Managing the Windows Vista Firewall
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/m.../cc510323.aspx
>
> So, why would anybody want to pay for something which comes free in the
> first place?
>
> -- An excellent antispyware application --.
>
> An antispyware (A-S) application (WindowsDefender) is already included in
> Vista OS and can be freely downloaded for WinXP. Add SuperAntispyware Free
> Edition & Malwarebytes and you're as good as gold.
> So, why would anybody want to pay for something which comes free in the
> first place?
>
> -- Automatic system clean/tune-ups --
>
> Free System Tuner
> http://www.easyfreeware.com/free_sys...-freeware.html
> Speed up your PC with our Free Registry Cleaner
> http://onecare.live.com/site/en-US/a...leaner_why.htm
> --but--
> Why I don˙t use registry cleaners!
> http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html
>
> IMO, a safer option is to use CCleaner ignoring the registry
> scanning/fixing option followed by using NTREGOPT (all freely available).
> --and/or--
> Clean HDD
> Click Start==>Run... then type (or copy/paste) "cleanmgr" (w/out quotation
> marks into the box, then click the 'OK' button. Select your drive
> (presumably WinXP (C and click OK.
> Delete files using Disk Cleanup (if on Vista)
> http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Win...139d91033.mspx
>
> So, why would anybody jeopardize proper functioning of their OS?
>
> -- Automatic hard drive defrag --.
>
> A HDD defragmentation utility is already included in both WinXP and Windows
> Vista which can be scheduled to scan at predetermined times.
>
> Schedule a weekly defragmentation
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u...ps/defrag.mspx
>
> Features of the Windows Vista hard disk defragmentation utility
> Scheduled defragmentation
> http://support.microsoft.com/kb/942092
>
> Also, there are a number of freeware defrag tools available which, the
> best to my knowledge are doing a wonderful job.
> So, why would anybody want to pay for something which comes free in the
> first place?
>
> -- Checks for updates to be sure they are installed --.
>
> Aside from Using the free Windows Update function in both WinXP and Windows
> Vista, Secunia Personal Software Inspector, Belarc and M/S Security
> Baseline Analyzer can assist also.
> So, why would anybody want to pay for something which comes free in the
> first place?
>
> -- Schedules automatic backups of important files --.
>
> Backup and Restore Center is an in-build version and comes free with both
> WinXP and Vista operating system.
>
> Windows XP Backup Made Easy
> http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u..._03july14.mspx
> Windows Backup and Restore Center
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/win...es/backup.aspx
>
> So, why would one want to pay for something which comes free in the first
> place?
>
> BTW, some users are impressed with free ware such as Cobian, Macrium
> Reflect, XXClone, Paragon etc...
>
> -- New version 2.5 just released - designed to work exceptionally well with
> Windows Vista & XP --.
>
> One would hope that this is the case, after all, it's a MSFT product!
> Selective, good-quality freeware applications are working like a charm as
> well in both WinXP and Vista operating systems!
>
> -- All-in-one convenient, easy to install application --.
>
> So are selective, good-quality freeware applications/utilities.
>
> -- On sale at Newegg for only $19.99 --
>
> If I were in the spending mood and were looking for a worthwhile addition
> to my Operating System I'd find another $30.- and purchase Acronis Back-Up
> package.
>
> Well, considering the above, I haven't got the foggiest idea what the hype
> about Windows Live OneCare package is all about!
> But, it is not unusual that in Multi National Organizations such as MSFT
> the Section Heads of the Commercial Department and the Program Engineers
> (Operating Department), are having conflicting opinions as they work for
> different goals.
> The Program Engineers are the pragmatic type, they develop things, they
> know things. They have to demonstrate high integrity in order to produce
> high quality software.
> The Advertising People know how to sell and push things. They mostly walk
> on a fine line but cross it frequently for the sake of the dollar almighty
> and in the name of the share holders. The nature of their job prevents them
> to be moral and ethical.
> The goals of the Commercial Dept. are not necessarily in the best interest
> for the end user.
> (The Office 2007/OE6 spell checker issue is just another example.)
> Would MSFT recommend the use of registry cleaners if Dr. Mark Russinovich
> and Ed Bott had a say? I don't think so!
> Would MSFT have included these lame additions to their Windows Live OneCare
> application if their program engineers had a say? I don't think so!
> As usual, Marketing trumps common sense. Let's hope that users pay more
> attention to the details instead to the sensational promotion.
>
> As I said, no surprise, and hooray to the program engineers
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