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Old 12-31-2008   #3 (permalink)
Ildhund
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Re: Newsgroup Actions

Thanks, Mike. That's cleared a few things up. I've put some comments
inline...

"Michael Santovec" <michael_santovec@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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> I can answer some of those questions. Although I'm speculating on
> some of them.
>
> You'll find some additional information in Help by searching under
> Synchronize.
I fear not - see screenshot.
Quote:

> View > Refresh (= F5) (Also on toolbar)
> Refreshes the view. So if you have the view set to hide read
> messages, those you have read recently will get hidden. IT also
> seems to do a synchronize on the newsgroup.
Yes, that's what F5 has done since about DOS 2.0. That's why I found
it strange that the only effect I see is the same as Synchronize
newsgroup - unless I happen to have an account selected, in which
case it seems to download the names of all newsgroups on the server.
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> The difference between Synchronize All and Newsgroup is that the
> latter does only the current newsgroup. How much gets
> synchronized depends on your settings (Headers only or Messages)
That makes sense, although I can't work out the difference between
the various sorts of synchronization. I can't see any difference at
all whether I choose Headers only or All messages or New messages
only. If I select an account and then click Synchronize Account on
the toolbar, I seem to get new messages (if there are any) in all
newsgroups under that account. And Synchronize All seems to poll all
my POP accounts for new messages as well as every other mail and
news account, and it takes forever.
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> The Get next xx headers only applies if you have set Tools,
> Options, Read to get xxx headers at a time.
If I don't set that, the option becomes Get New headers - what's the
difference? And what's the difference between Get ... headers and
Synchronize? Is it that Synchronize lops all the old messages off
the top of the list whereas Get ... headers doesn't? In which case,
if I only used Get ... headers, I would retain all the old posts,
including those that no longer reside on the server? I've been
looking for a way to do that for a long time.
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> New headers/messages mean since you last download headers
> (synchronized) with the newsgroup.
So somewhere - locally, suppose - there is a flag that says when I
last synchronized - is that regardless of the type of
synchronization? And does it count if instead of choosing
Synchronize, I select Get ... headers? Or press F5?
Quote:

> Catch-up is intended for when you first visit a newsgroup or
> return to one that you haven't visited in a while. It marks all
> existing messages in the newsgroup as having been read without
> actually downloading the headers. You'll only see any new
> messages after this time.
I can't imagine why I'd want to do that - how do then know which
ones I've read and which not?

I've been using newsgroups for at least 15 years, so I thought it's
about time I learnt some of the basics. It's odd that Help doesn't
mention any of this, as if there were some sort of standard that
WLMail adhered to.

Thanks again
--
Noel
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> "Ildhund" <jnllb@xxxxxx> wrote in message
> news:uer92o4aJHA.4820@xxxxxx
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>> Can anyone explain, or point out an appropriate page which will
>> tell me, what the difference is between these actions when I'm in
>> Newsgroups view? This is in version 12.0.1606, and Help is
>> totally silent (or else I don't know where to look).
>>
>> View > Refresh (= F5) (Also on toolbar)
>> Tools > Synchronize all (Also on toolbar)
>> Tools > Synchronize newsgroup
>> Tools > Get next n headers (On toolbar: Headers)
>> Tools > Get New headers
>> Synchronize account (Only on toolbar)
>>
>> Sometimes, when I select a newsgroup in the folder pane, the
>> status bar tells me that WLMail is connecting to the server and
>> checking for messages. Sometimes it doesn't, and it seems to
>> depend on where I clicked previously.
>>
>> What constitutes a New header? Or a New message? Is there a time
>> span involved?
>>
>> And the same questions really apply to Synchronization settings,
>> of which there seem to be a bewildering variety, in several
>> places.
>>
>> Lastly, what does 'Catch up' mean, and what's the difference
>> between 'Purge' and 'Delete'?
>>
>> I'm sure I'm not the only one who needs a bit of guidance. Happy
>> New Year everybody!

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