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Robert Firth wrote:
>> Not only will the legitimate customers be pleased, but the software
>> pirates will as well.
How? What difference does it make to them? They don't bother with the EULA
to begin with. And apparently, nine times out of ten they develop a crack
workaround.
>> Besides, what is so difficult about one
>> license, one computer?
Much. It's changing the rules. It's substantially detracting value from the
full Retail licence. It is very inconvenient for the hobbiest enthusiast who
frequently changes computers / mobos etc.
Furthermore, the forced WGA N type software is, essentially, a
spyware/trojan device that wrests control of the behaviour of the PC from
its owner. Not good.
>> If you change everything about your computer
>> except the case, then that is still a new computer. That would be 2
>> computers, one license. It is pretty simple. If you change the
>> graphics card, well, that is the same computer.
? The point being ?
>> Last I checked WGA checks on your hard drive serial number, the
>> motherboard, and bios version, among a few other less important
>> things, weighing changes accordingly.
In other words just everything about the computer and perhaps then some. I'm
not commenting on WGA, rather forced WGA N which will regularly report on a
person, and possibly seize one's effects, electronic papers and documents. I
think that would be a serious a civil rights violation.
>> So if you want to transfer your license from one computer to
>> another, you are really trying to put it on many different computers
>> with only one license.
No, I would be using the Retail license on only one computer at any one
time. Which is reasonable and fair use of it, especially considering what I
pay for it in comparison to an OEM type license.
>> We have all discussed the terms of the EULA. However, we don't
>> really know how this is being enforced programmatically yet, nor do
>> we know what Microsoft will do if you call them and tell them that
>> you upgraded your computer and that it failed.
Who cares if it enforcable through software? Enforcement is the job of the
state, not Microsoft. When the state enforces they have to do it in a manner
that respects my civil liberties. Microsoft is attempting to usrup the jobs
of cop, judge, jury and executioner and plans to do so at its own caprice
and whim. Not good.
>> A one time transfer doesn't necessarily mean you can only activate
>> it twice, nor does it mean that you can only upgrade your computer
>> once. It simply means you can't move the license from one computer
>> to another more than once.
Which is a major flaw of the new EULA.
>> Moving your license from one computer to
>> another is pretty arbitrary, but needs to be defined by Microsoft
>> before we all freak out. It may be that if you call Microsoft and
>> tell them you upgraded your computer, not transfered the license,
>> that they will be able to manually override it for you.
When WPA came in we were told we were never to have to explain ourselves to
Microsoft. Now this?
>> The demands from Microsoft aren't all that outragous. Have you seen
>> how many cameras there are in Walmart reporting back and recording
>> your every move?
But Walmart is not my home or personal papers. Those are protected by my
civil rights against seizure without a warrant.
>> You know that they could use advanced face
>> recognition technology identify you and keep track of your spending
>> habits. Does that mean that they do? No.
Well, that's a altogether debatable subject. I think there are issues
surrounding the use of face recognition software - or there should be.
http://www.heritage.org/Research/Hom...fense/lm12.cfm
Besides, here it has become possible for a person to wear a face covering.
So it is a broad topic whose legal implications are still vague and a bit
off topic.
>> Likewise, that data
>> Microsoft gathers is INTENTIONALLY handled in such a way that they
>> can't identify you. Of course they have your IP address. So do I.
>> You aren't as anonymous on the internet as you might think.
Yes, but I choose where I post and what sites I visit or if I ever even
venture onto the Internet. Forced WGA N would report without my permission.
Forced WGA N takes the ongoing control of my computer out of my hands and
puts it into Microsoft's - an unnerving qualitiative change. And Microsoft
so far would not be responsible / accountable for the information they
gather in any way. A situation I think is not good.
>> Robert Firth
>> http://www.winvistainfo.org
>>
>>
>> "SESSION_EVENT" <session@event.net.net.net> wrote in message
>> news:ubb7Xek9GHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> Dear Microsoft Folks:
>>>
>>> Take out the transfer only once clause from the Vista EULA and
>>> remove the forced WGA N type software from the Vista SOFTWARE and
>>> you will please millions of hobbiests and enthusiasts.
>>>
>>> They might even get downright chipper. You might reap a greater
>>> success than if you don't - just because a lot of people will like
>>> you for it.
>>>
>>> Do that and I will return to recommending Windows - promise, Scout's
>>> honour.