Jeff

Gene;
Basically,
Hardware shouldnt be an issue-at all; if i lease an o.s.-and i switch
computers;I'm taking my leased o.s. with me . Not that I intend it;but say I
have a hardware fail;buy a new pc;there's #1;if in the course of events;I
decide I either don't like that hardware;or switch it for any reason; said
o.s. is coming with me;and it better work on #2 period.
If MSFT has a problem with that;then they'll lose my business; and I'd
dare say;lots of people feel that way.

Jeff

"Gene Fitz" <GeneFitz@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:20C008A3-6C93-4720-BBF1-CA4CDFF7D5FE@microsoft.com...
> See, now there is a misconception. If your computer crashes, and you
> have to reload it, it should still activate without issue, and if there is
> a
> siutuation where you have to call in activation, that shouldn't be a
> problem
> either. Look, no one is telling you that you have to be perfect and you
> can't
> re-load. That is not a problem. You can re-load it on the same computer as
> many times as you see fit.
> The difference is that unlike Windows XP, if you change your computer
> (replace the mainboard, hard drive, processor, etc.), you can do that once
> (within reason, of course). Now if you call Microsoft and say "My hard
> drive
> burnt out on me, and I had to replace it." I am sure they wouldn't have a
> problem giving you another liscense, as long as you aren't calling them
> for a
> hard drive this week, a mainboard next month and a processor 3 months from
> now. Common sense will prevail. They are even saying that you can buy
> yourself a new computer, or build yourself a new computer once and change
> the
> liscense over to it. Not that hard to deal with.
> The best advice I can say is if you are already running RC1 or RC2,
> use
> that as your test platform, get all the upgrades you think you will need.
> My
> goal is to have 4.5 to 5.0 index before Vista is bought. This way, I will
> not
> have to worry about upgrades.
> In the coming months I will be buying 2 hard drives, maybe a new
> processor (I am already runnign a 64 X2 4600), a new graphics card, and a
> couple more gigs of ram. You have time to do that, you have a few months
> before it hits the shelves. This way, after you load Vista, you won't have
> to
> worry about "I need upgrades because I am running too slow." You know what
> your computer needs, you have the ability to "Get Ready!"
> Moreover, the RC versions, from what I understand will remain
> operational, at least for a little while after the market release, so you
> will have time. Then again, you don't have to be the first person in line
> at
> the store to buy Vista either. It may be a good idea to wait until you
> know
> your computer is ready for Vista before you buy it.
> The EULA isn't made to tie our hands, but it does encourage one to
> think about things first. It also forces us to do a little planning before
> acting. A couple routes to go. Eitehr upgrade before you install, or
> upgrade
> after you install, but plan it out and when you do that upgrading, do it
> all
> at once, whether you buy the parts at the same time, or buy the parts over
> time and install it all at the same time.
>
> this shouldn't be an issue. :-)
>
> "Piet Fourie" wrote:
>
>> I can understand that Piracy is a problem, but for me, it will also be a
>> problem to keep on buying new licenses. I am just a normal guy in the
>> street, earning an average income. Computer Technology changes all the
>> time.
>> Anyway, I also try other software and in the process sometimes crashes
>> the
>> PC, and wants to do it all over..........I simply cannot afford it ! It
>> is
>> unreasonable to have such a heavy hand on OS's. After all, I believe it
>> is
>> the smaller guys who also promoted Microsoft Software world wide. I will
>> never believe that MS is so cash strapped that all these restrictions are
>> necessary.
>>
>> "Robert Firth" <webmaster@winvistainfo.org> wrote in message
>> news:63515BFD-09A1-4A75-B51D-6013C4B99B7A@microsoft.com...
>> > Not only will the legitimate customers be pleased, but the software
>> > pirates will as well. Besides, what is so difficult about one license,
>> > one
>> > computer? If you change everything about your computer except the case,
>> > then that is still a new computer. That would be 2 computers, one
>> > license.
>> > It is pretty simple. If you change the graphics card, well, that is the
>> > same computer.
>> >
>> > Last I checked WGA checks on your hard drive serial number, the
>> > motherboard, and bios version, among a few other less important things,
>> > weighing changes accordingly.
>> >
>> > So if you want to transfer your license from one computer to another,
>> > you
>> > are really trying to put it on many different computers with only one
>> > license.
>> >
>> > We have all discussed the terms of the EULA. However, we don't really
>> > know
>> > how this is being enforced programmatically yet, nor do we know what
>> > Microsoft will do if you call them and tell them that you upgraded your
>> > computer and that it failed.
>> >
>> > A one time transfer doesn't necessarily mean you can only activate it
>> > twice, nor does it mean that you can only upgrade your computer once.
>> > It
>> > simply means you can't move the license from one computer to another
>> > more
>> > than once. Moving your license from one computer to another is pretty
>> > arbitrary, but needs to be defined by Microsoft before we all freak
>> > out.
>> > It may be that if you call Microsoft and tell them you upgraded your
>> > computer, not transfered the license, that they will be able to
>> > manually
>> > override it for you.
>> >
>> > The demands from Microsoft aren't all that outragous. Have you seen how
>> > many cameras there are in Walmart reporting back and recording your
>> > every
>> > move? You know that they could use advanced face recognition technology
>> > identify you and keep track of your spending habits. Does that mean
>> > that
>> > they do? No. Likewise, that data Microsoft gathers is INTENTIONALLY
>> > handled in such a way that they can't identify you. Of course they have
>> > your IP address. So do I. You aren't as anonymous on the internet as
>> > you
>> > might think.
>> >
>> > Robert Firth
>> > http://www.winvistainfo.org
>> >
>> >
>> > "SESSION_EVENT" <session@event.net.net.net> wrote in message
>> > news:ubb7Xek9GHA.3348@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> >> Dear Microsoft Folks:
>> >>
>> >> Take out the transfer only once clause from the Vista EULA and remove
>> >> the
>> >> forced WGA N type software from the Vista SOFTWARE and you will please
>> >> millions of hobbiests and enthusiasts.
>> >>
>> >> They might even get downright chipper. You might reap a greater
>> >> success
>> >> than if you don't - just because a lot of people will like you for it.
>> >>
>> >> Do that and I will return to recommending Windows - promise, Scout's
>> >> honour.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>