5308 - this is what were promised...

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1154262,00.asp

Where is it? Where are all the animations that use DX10 and my 500$+ GPU?`

Instead we have shadows and transparency - stuff that you could get in Win98
with StarDock's WindowFX (shareware) program.

It seems MS still doesn't get it. Eye candy sells. Just look at OSX.

Under the hood stuff (new kernel, Indigo, Avalon...)...it's all "useless" if
you can't get the buying public first interested in your product.

And I'm sorry - Vista as it is now (with 5308), is on the outside just
Windows XP.1.

If you can't show on the outside (=UI) any progress in 5 years (!), it's
pretty sad. Vista should be more than XP + MSN Desktop Search + OlutLook
Express 6.1 and WMP11. All those could have been as easily put in XP SP3.

Sorry, that's just the way it is.

Absolutely agreed! And I just might add MS never seems to get their UI
right too... like UI consistency...

It's a bit like iPod... You can take out the shell the touch-wheel, and
bright color LCD, and replace them with radio buttons, and a
mono-calculator-like LCD display, and then market sell this iPod mono...

.... and it looks great right? The fine print says you need 3-rd party
products to dress up all the ulgy parts.

and it's like a mobile phone. Ever noticed they sell in GOOD LOOKS and
not in bare skeleton and ask you to buy shells that look acceptable?

"Mike Steel" <MikeSteel@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:A2B9721F-22AD-44D5-A844-9DB2C60B7129@microsoft.com...
> http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1154262,00.asp
>
> Where is it? Where are all the animations that use DX10 and my 500$+
> GPU?`
>
> Instead we have shadows and transparency - stuff that you could get in
> Win98
> with StarDock's WindowFX (shareware) program.
>
> It seems MS still doesn't get it. Eye candy sells. Just look at OSX.
>
> Under the hood stuff (new kernel, Indigo, Avalon...)...it's all
> "useless" if
> you can't get the buying public first interested in your product.
>
> And I'm sorry - Vista as it is now (with 5308), is on the outside just
> Windows XP.1.
>
> If you can't show on the outside (=UI) any progress in 5 years (!),
> it's
> pretty sad. Vista should be more than XP + MSN Desktop Search +
> OlutLook
> Express 6.1 and WMP11. All those could have been as easily put in XP
> SP3.
>
> Sorry, that's just the way it is.

Microsoft have already said they have finalised the UI however they just
need to "polish off what they have". Expect more in the April CTP/Beta 2
release.

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--- Original message follows ---
<Nicholas> wrote in message news:uZHqWgdPGHA.3936@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Absolutely agreed! And I just might add MS never seems to get their UI
> right too... like UI consistency...
>
> It's a bit like iPod... You can take out the shell the touch-wheel, and
> bright color LCD, and replace them with radio buttons, and a
> mono-calculator-like LCD display, and then market sell this iPod mono...
>
> ... and it looks great right? The fine print says you need 3-rd party
> products to dress up all the ulgy parts.
>
> and it's like a mobile phone. Ever noticed they sell in GOOD LOOKS and not
> in bare skeleton and ask you to buy shells that look acceptable?
>
> "Mike Steel" <MikeSteel@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:A2B9721F-22AD-44D5-A844-9DB2C60B7129@microsoft.com...
>> http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...1154262,00.asp
>>
>> Where is it? Where are all the animations that use DX10 and my 500$+
>> GPU?`
>>
>> Instead we have shadows and transparency - stuff that you could get in
>> Win98
>> with StarDock's WindowFX (shareware) program.
>>
>> It seems MS still doesn't get it. Eye candy sells. Just look at OSX.
>>
>> Under the hood stuff (new kernel, Indigo, Avalon...)...it's all "useless"
>> if
>> you can't get the buying public first interested in your product.
>>
>> And I'm sorry - Vista as it is now (with 5308), is on the outside just
>> Windows XP.1.
>>
>> If you can't show on the outside (=UI) any progress in 5 years (!), it's
>> pretty sad. Vista should be more than XP + MSN Desktop Search + OlutLook
>> Express 6.1 and WMP11. All those could have been as easily put in XP SP3.
>>
>> Sorry, that's just the way it is.
>
>