Vista - 32 vs 64 bit gaming Increase my fps?

By your logic since I have 8gigs of ram Vista64 should be using 4 gigs of that, however on my system its at 1.5gigs used with my remote access client, docking program and anti-virus running. Please don't make generalized assumption based statements like this that are completely false.

To the OP, upgrading to 64 bit will help with game performance but nothing can replace upgrading physical hardware, aka more RAM, better video card.

How can be false when I have had 4gb off RAM, and all so have 2gb atm and I have seen the differences between the two.

Because you are running too much on start up probably, or your sharing system memory someplace. To make a generalized statement that vista will use more the more you have is in fact false.

To get back to the original question,
you would utilise the Gig of ram not being used at the moment, but as to better FPS and a faster PC ?, you may see a slight increase in both, but to be honest it would not be worth the extra cost, imo.
If your going in for the numbers game then you will end up in a never ending cycle of upgrades.
If your PC is ruuning fine and your happy with your gaming experience then save your money.
If it aint broken dont fix it.

nope its not false , Vista will cache more , i have 3142mb of memory currently cached , if i had 2 gigs of ram i couldnt have that much cached could i? so more ram , more set aside for system cache.

when i had 2 gigs of ram i was using 28% of that for Vista , now i have 4 gigs and im still using 28% (on a clean boot with only Eset running) The rest is set aside for cache

obviously this is up to a point , if i had 16gb of ram the same wouldnt apply

Ok if I am understanding what you are saying then what I have here is impossible.


This is again my system running with my remote access client/dock program and antivirus system all running in the background. 8Gigs of ram and you can see the usage. So please inform me as to why I can see this, but yet your stating that if I have 4gigs of ram vista will use 2 of it?

Element your pc's only been on for 2 minutes. Give vista a bit longer like 15 minutes and then check again.

Sure thing.



Keep in mind I also now have my FTP server open so there is 1 more process running than the first SS was taken. And as you requested the system uptime is now at 38mins during this SS and the current usage is under 1.5gigs.

OK this link explains the performance tab better than i can: Task Manager's Performance tab more useful in Windows Vista

Heres mine:



But hay im going to anyway lol. On the left hand side under Physical Memory this lists the total ram you have installed. Vista will always try and fill the cache so the amount of free ram will always be a smaller number than the cached value. This DOES depend on what you have installed on your pc but in most cases the values will look similar to mine and Elements above.

On the right under System there is the value Page File. The first number is whats in use and the second is the total amount. The first value is your OS plus any currently running programmes it does NOT take notice of what is cached. The second value is your installed ram plus your virtual memory.

For Elements pc you can see that his OS and currently running programmes take up 1548mb of ram so he could have the same setup with only 2 gigs of ram installed on his pc.

For my pc i could run my setup with 1 gig of ram installed as im only using 950mb. Everybodys pc will be different as it depends on what Services you have running and what applications you have running.

If you have 2 gig off RAM with vista, will use 1600-1800mb with no open programs, and if you have 4gb off RAM it will use 2200mb off RAM so the more ram you have the more RAM will be wasted on windows.

But yes you will get better gaming performance.

This is what I originally quoted and said was false, and I still believe what I said is accurate. Just because the memory is cached doesn't mean its not available for use when I say open up Photoshop/Illustrator and then WoW and CS:S all at the same time. The above quote refers memory usage, to the best of my knowledge caching and usage are two different things. And your link seems to support what my brain thinks.

The Physical Memory table, shown in Figure D, contains three entries measured in megabytes (MB). Of course, the Total entry shows the amount of RAM installed in the system. The Cached entry indicates the amount of physical memory used recently for system resources. This memory will remain in the cache in case the system resources are needed again, but it's available should other operations need it. The Free entry indicates the amount of memory that is currently not being used or does not contain useful information.