Here's a problem. Without my Vista install disk in my DVD drive, I get an error NTLDR missing. However, when I put it in, the operating system boots up fine.
Why could this be?
Why could this be?
NTLDR Missing
- Thread starter uncdog
- Start date
zigzag3143
Banned
the ntldr on your HD is either corrupt or missing. Have you done any deleting, or editing of the C drive? When your finished booting you can copy the ntldr from the dvd to the HD. It goes in C:\, or c:\boot (which may be hidden)
hope this helps and let us know if you need help with any of this
ken
My Computer
System One
-
- Manufacturer/Model
- Dell Inspiron E 1405
- Memory
- 4 gigs
- Graphics Card(s)
- integrated intel 945
- Sound Card
- integrated
- Screen Resolution
- 1440x900
- Hard Drives
- 300 gig internal
- Internet Speed
- 10 down 1.5 up
Okay, I'm confused. I thought Vista did not use ntldr. Did you have XP on this system and performed an upgrade?
My Computer
System One
-
- Manufacturer/Model
- Custom
- CPU
- AMD AM2 6000+
- Motherboard
- Nvidia M2N-E SLI
- Graphics Card(s)
- GeForce 7600GT
- Screen Resolution
- 1280x1024
- Hard Drives
- WD
- Case
- Cooler Master
- Cooling
- Three fans
- Keyboard
- Dell Quietkey
- Mouse
- Dell Optical
- Internet Speed
- 10 MBPS
If this is correct, you can do a startup repair and that should fix the problem.
My Computer
System One
-
- Manufacturer/Model
- Custom
- CPU
- AMD AM2 6000+
- Motherboard
- Nvidia M2N-E SLI
- Graphics Card(s)
- GeForce 7600GT
- Screen Resolution
- 1280x1024
- Hard Drives
- WD
- Case
- Cooler Master
- Cooling
- Three fans
- Keyboard
- Dell Quietkey
- Mouse
- Dell Optical
- Internet Speed
- 10 MBPS
The answer is yes, I did. And yes I did do a start up repair, and yes it did work once!
Then it went back to the same error.
My Computer
zigzag3143
Banned
Since NTLDR is a system file if you run a system file check it should verify it, or repair it.
Start>search>type cmd>right click and run as admin>sfc /scannow
let us know the results
ken
My Computer
System One
-
- Manufacturer/Model
- Dell Inspiron E 1405
- Memory
- 4 gigs
- Graphics Card(s)
- integrated intel 945
- Sound Card
- integrated
- Screen Resolution
- 1440x900
- Hard Drives
- 300 gig internal
- Internet Speed
- 10 down 1.5 up
Aha!
Please do it again. It may take more than one time. I believe that startup repair will fix ONE problem at a time. Lemme know...
My Computer
System One
-
- Manufacturer/Model
- Custom
- CPU
- AMD AM2 6000+
- Motherboard
- Nvidia M2N-E SLI
- Graphics Card(s)
- GeForce 7600GT
- Screen Resolution
- 1280x1024
- Hard Drives
- WD
- Case
- Cooler Master
- Cooling
- Three fans
- Keyboard
- Dell Quietkey
- Mouse
- Dell Optical
- Internet Speed
- 10 MBPS
Thanks for the advice. Came back with Windows Resource Protection did not find any integrity violations.
I don't really want to go all the way back to reinstall, as a repair only temporarily works.
My Computer
I did it three times - same error each time.
DVD in drive at boot up (or indeed any bootable disk), fine - boots to the o/s.
No disk, NTLDR missing.
My Computer
zigzag3143
Banned
UNCdog
have you tried this.
Boot with dvd in and when booted drag the iso to desktop and extract (with something like poweriso). take the folder "boot" and the ntldr and drag them to the root of the OS drive.
Dont know if it will work but cant be worse
good luck
Ken
have you tried this.
Boot with dvd in and when booted drag the iso to desktop and extract (with something like poweriso). take the folder "boot" and the ntldr and drag them to the root of the OS drive.
Dont know if it will work but cant be worse
good luck
Ken
My Computer
System One
-
- Manufacturer/Model
- Dell Inspiron E 1405
- Memory
- 4 gigs
- Graphics Card(s)
- integrated intel 945
- Sound Card
- integrated
- Screen Resolution
- 1440x900
- Hard Drives
- 300 gig internal
- Internet Speed
- 10 down 1.5 up
My Computer
zigzag3143
Banned
what sp? what happened when you dropped them in c:\, was this machine dual booting?
sorry this is like the tenth thread today with this problem so I may be asking the same questions twice
Ken
sorry this is like the tenth thread today with this problem so I may be asking the same questions twice
Ken
My Computer
System One
-
- Manufacturer/Model
- Dell Inspiron E 1405
- Memory
- 4 gigs
- Graphics Card(s)
- integrated intel 945
- Sound Card
- integrated
- Screen Resolution
- 1440x900
- Hard Drives
- 300 gig internal
- Internet Speed
- 10 down 1.5 up
Sorry for not looking around first. I am dual booting yes. The Win XP is corrupt I am sure of that - and I no longer have the need to use it, so it can be gotten rid of.
I have tried getting rid of the OS loader from Boot Manager using bcdedit, but still doesn't fix. All I have noticed is that the boot manager points to the XP drive. Is there anyway this can be changed i.e. can I make the change in bcdedit, then use the DVD to fix the issue.
My Computer
zigzag3143
Banned
sure
Im doing this from memory so it might be slightly off
To be honest it much easier in EasyBCD. you can download it and its free. In easy you view the settings note where xp is, go to add/remove and remove the xp listing. If vista is on the C drive thats pretty much it if not use the manage bootloader to change it to where vista is.
ARE you still missing the ntldr? you are gonna need that but I honestly dont remember.
Let me know
Ken
My Computer
System One
-
- Manufacturer/Model
- Dell Inspiron E 1405
- Memory
- 4 gigs
- Graphics Card(s)
- integrated intel 945
- Sound Card
- integrated
- Screen Resolution
- 1440x900
- Hard Drives
- 300 gig internal
- Internet Speed
- 10 down 1.5 up
Good tip thanks. I re-wrote the MBR and the ntldr problem has gone, however now bootmgr is missing! I can still get in with the DVD in the drive though.
Repair via DVD has not worked.
Looking at EasyBCD, view settings (detailed), the Boot OS Loader is looking at the right place, except the Boot Manager is still set to the XP partition in the {device} tag
Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {9dea862c-5cdd-4e70-acc1-f32b344d4795}
device partition=D:
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {7ea2e1ac-2e61-4728-aaa3-896d9d0a9f0e}
default {573ace04-9362-11dd-a0e5-8142d8db4e0c}
displayorder {bcb7627a-b3b7-11de-8ebd-be351ba1233a}
{573ace04-9362-11dd-a0e5-8142d8db4e0c}
{519316b1-9357-11dd-b4ab-84d623dff60d}
toolsdisplayorder {b2721d73-1db4-4c62-bf78-c548a880142d}
timeout 10
resume No
My Computer
zigzag3143
Banned
uncdog
The file bootmgr is 375k and goes in the root oc the OS partition. If you can boot from the dvd its got one on it. just drag it from the dvd to root of C
hope that finishes it
Ken
The file bootmgr is 375k and goes in the root oc the OS partition. If you can boot from the dvd its got one on it. just drag it from the dvd to root of C
hope that finishes it
Ken
My Computer
System One
-
- Manufacturer/Model
- Dell Inspiron E 1405
- Memory
- 4 gigs
- Graphics Card(s)
- integrated intel 945
- Sound Card
- integrated
- Screen Resolution
- 1440x900
- Hard Drives
- 300 gig internal
- Internet Speed
- 10 down 1.5 up
z3r010
Staff member
Do you have more than one HDD in your pc?
My Computers
System One System Two
-
- Operating System
- Windows 11 Workstation
- Manufacturer/Model
- doofenshmirtz evil incorporated
- CPU
- Ryzen 9 5950X
- Motherboard
- Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Formula
- Memory
- Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO Black 64GB (4x16GB) 3600MHz AMD Ryzen Tuned DDR4
- Graphics Card(s)
- ASUS AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT 16GB ROG Strix LC OC
- Sound Card
- Creative
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 3 x27" Dell U2724D & 1 x 34" Dell U3415W
- Hard Drives
- Samsung 980 Pro 1TB M.2 2280 PCI-e 4.0 x4 NVMe Solid State
Drive
- PSU
- 1500W ThermalTake Toughpower
- Case
- ThermalTake Level 10 GT
- Cooling
- Enermax Liqtech 240
- Keyboard
- Surface Ergonomic.
- Mouse
- Logitech Performance MX
- Internet Speed
- 350 Mb/s
- Other Info
- WinTV NovaTD
HP CP1515n Color Laser
Sony BD-5300S-0B Blu-ray Writer
Microsoft LifeCam Cinema
APC 750i Smart UPS
-
- Operating System
- windows 10
- Manufacturer/Model
- Surface Pro 3
- CPU
- 1.9GHz Intel Core i5-4300U (dual-core, 3MB cache, up to 2.9GHz with Turbo Boost)
- Memory
- 4GB
- Graphics card(s)
- Intel HD Graphics 4400
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 12" Multi Touch
- Screen Resolution
- 2160 x 144
- Hard Drives
- 128GB
- Mouse
- Logitech
- Keyboard
- yes
- Internet Speed
- 350 Mb/s
Ok here's the fix:
Boot from Vista DVD and click Repair Your Computer. Now open command prompt and type:
Boot from Vista DVD and click Repair Your Computer. Now open command prompt and type:
- bcdedit /export C:\BCD_Backup
- c:
- cd boot
- attrib bcd -s -h -r
- ren c:\boot\bcd bcd.old
- bootrec /RebuildBcd
- bootrec /FixMbr
- bootrec /FixBoot
My Computer
System One
-
- Manufacturer/Model
- Compaq
- CPU
- intel core 2 duo T 5550 @ 1.83 MHz
- Motherboard
- intel 965 chipset family
- Memory
- 2 GB DDR 2 SD RAM @ 667 MHz
- Graphics Card(s)
- On board upto 358 MB RAM
- Sound Card
- Onboard
- Monitor(s) Displays
- 15"
- Hard Drives
- 160 GB WDC
Tried all that, and did not work. When I was in the recovery environment, it could not find a boot folder.
My guess is that my drive has corrupted to the state where I can only repair this problem via a re-install, which I do not want to do.
So I guess I'll have to live with it. Thanks for everyone's help though.
Well, easybcd did help in creating bootmgr, but I've now moved to the loader screen without the DVD but getting the windows boot configuration data file is missing the required information error.
I've tried all 3 fixes on the microsoft support site to no avail.
Last edited: