Solved Defragmentation

Hi all :cool:

I am having a problem defragging my computer. Thing is, i can't. It starts, but never finishes. It's been at it for eight hours now, and it usually takes about two. I defrag my computer once a week, and nothing has significantly changed recently. I deleted a lot of old files, about 20gb, is that might be the cause?

Virus Scan shows nothing wrong...

Malwarebytes shows nothing wrong...

I have done disk clean-ups and i really don't know what to do. I read something about a command line defrag.exe, but im not familiar with this.

Any idea's? Thanks!
 

My Computer

What program are you attempting to defrag with and are you attempting to defrag 1 HDD, 2HDD or just folders?
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Build
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4 Ghz LGA 775 Quad
    Motherboard
    Foxconn P45A-S LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX
    Memory
    OCZ2VU80016GQ 16GB (4x4GB) DDR2 800Mhz Vista Dual Channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    2- Sapphire 10022SL Radeon HD 3850 PCI-e in Crossfire mode
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer H213H 21.5" Widescreen Full HD 1080P LCD
    Hard Drives
    2- Seagate ST3160023AS HD 500GB
    2- Seagate ST31000333AS HD 1TB
    1- Seagate ST310005FJA105-RK Freeagent Desk 1TB
    PSU
    Enermax EG701AX 600W Switching Power Supply
    Case
    Lian Li PC-70 Ext/ATX
    Cooling
    Artic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro for Intel CPU
    Keyboard
    MS Keyboard Pro
    Mouse
    Intellimouse Optical
    Internet Speed
    3766.5Kbits 470.8KBytes
    Other Info
    2- Incessa IN-811 removable drive bays and 8- removable drive bay caddies.

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS420
    Memory
    6 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT
Try defraggler, it is at least as good as the native defragger.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS420
    Memory
    6 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT
Last edited:

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Build
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4 Ghz LGA 775 Quad
    Motherboard
    Foxconn P45A-S LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX
    Memory
    OCZ2VU80016GQ 16GB (4x4GB) DDR2 800Mhz Vista Dual Channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    2- Sapphire 10022SL Radeon HD 3850 PCI-e in Crossfire mode
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer H213H 21.5" Widescreen Full HD 1080P LCD
    Hard Drives
    2- Seagate ST3160023AS HD 500GB
    2- Seagate ST31000333AS HD 1TB
    1- Seagate ST310005FJA105-RK Freeagent Desk 1TB
    PSU
    Enermax EG701AX 600W Switching Power Supply
    Case
    Lian Li PC-70 Ext/ATX
    Cooling
    Artic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro for Intel CPU
    Keyboard
    MS Keyboard Pro
    Mouse
    Intellimouse Optical
    Internet Speed
    3766.5Kbits 470.8KBytes
    Other Info
    2- Incessa IN-811 removable drive bays and 8- removable drive bay caddies.
+3 For Defragger.
Piriform - Download

Normally, I would say use Windows Disk Defragmenter, but in Vista it just takes forever.

Maybe because in Windows 7 it runs weekly, I believe, defrag doesn't take more than 15 minutes.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    AMD/GIGABYTE
    CPU
    AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 6000+ (2 CPUs), ~3.
    Motherboard
    Gigabyte GA-M57SLI-S4 (rev. 2.0)
    Memory
    2048MB RAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    SyncMaster T220/T220G,SyncMaster Magic T220/T220G(Digital)
    Screen Resolution
    1680 by 1050 pixels
    Hard Drives
    Seagate ST310003 40AS SCSI Disk Device
    Western Digital WDC WD50 00AAJS-00YFA SCSI Disk Device
    PSU
    Thermaltake 500W
    Internet Speed
    VERY FAST>>>>!!!!
    Other Info
    Optiarc DVD RW AD-7191S SCSI CdRom Device
@eldinv

Yea, I know; that is why I don't use native and also it displays really nothing. I like to see what I am dealing with and the end result.
Had tried Smartdefrag but didn't feel that it was doing a satisfactory job.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Self Build
    CPU
    Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4 Ghz LGA 775 Quad
    Motherboard
    Foxconn P45A-S LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX
    Memory
    OCZ2VU80016GQ 16GB (4x4GB) DDR2 800Mhz Vista Dual Channel
    Graphics Card(s)
    2- Sapphire 10022SL Radeon HD 3850 PCI-e in Crossfire mode
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer H213H 21.5" Widescreen Full HD 1080P LCD
    Hard Drives
    2- Seagate ST3160023AS HD 500GB
    2- Seagate ST31000333AS HD 1TB
    1- Seagate ST310005FJA105-RK Freeagent Desk 1TB
    PSU
    Enermax EG701AX 600W Switching Power Supply
    Case
    Lian Li PC-70 Ext/ATX
    Cooling
    Artic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro for Intel CPU
    Keyboard
    MS Keyboard Pro
    Mouse
    Intellimouse Optical
    Internet Speed
    3766.5Kbits 470.8KBytes
    Other Info
    2- Incessa IN-811 removable drive bays and 8- removable drive bay caddies.
Is there anything running in the background?
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Advent
    CPU
    AMD Phenom X4 9550 2.8Ghz
    Motherboard
    FOXCONN A6VMX (Socket 940)
    Memory
    4.0GB RAM
    Graphics Card(s)
    256MB On-board ATI Radeon X1200 Series
    Sound Card
    UnKnown
    Monitor(s) Displays
    19" TFT Mointor
    Screen Resolution
    1400 by 900
    Hard Drives
    500GB Western Digital WDC
    Keyboard
    HP Keyboard
    Internet Speed
    Mobile Broadband via Vodafone
    Other Info
    250GB External Hard-drive
Defragmentation can be affected by corruption. While using a different defragmenter is a perfectly valid solution (and perhaps even a better solution since some, I too like and use Defraggler, are better than the one that comes with Vista), the one with Vista still should work properly and changing programs doesn't address the reason Vista's program isn't working properly. Let's check and try to repair any corruption on your hard drive.

Go to Start / All Programs / Accessories / Command prompt and right click on command prompt and click run as Administrator.

Type sfc /scannow and enter and let it run. It will scan and try to fix some of your system files. Hopefully it will complete with no corruption it could not repair (if there is such corruption post back here or try to analyze it to find the problem file(s) using http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928228. Try to attach the report (you may need to copy it to your desktop before it will permit you to attach it) here so we can see if they can be repaired with good copies from the installation disk (unless there are too many).

While in Command Prompt, type chkdsk /f /r and enter and let it run. It will want to schedule itself to run at the next restart. Answer yes and then reboot to run the program. It will scan and try to fix any corruption or bad sectors on your hard drive and mostly remove that as a potential cause.


If that doesn't work, then please post any error messages from the Event Viewer concerning defragmentation (Start / Control Panel / Administrative Tools / Event Viewer). Here's how to use Event Viewer: http://www.petri.co.il/vista-event-viewer.htm. Look in the System section. If you find any, and there should be some if it is failing to complete, then click on them for more details, copy those details, and post them here as they may help us identify the cause.


These options only apply if you want to try to discover what's causing Vista's defragmentation program to fail and see if that can be repaired. If you try one of the other programs and it works and you're satisfied with it and don't really care any more about Vista's program or the cause of the problem, then you can ignore these options and just use the new program from now on - but I personally would check at least as far as I've suggested above to try to confirm that it isn't a symptom of a bigger problem. But that decision is entirely yours. If the other program works, then you have a way to defragment which was most likely the main objective of this thread and the apparent problem is resolved. You can worry about other problems if and as any appear - remembering then that this problem exists and may be related.


I hope this helps.


Good luck!
 
Last edited:

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inc. MP061 Inspiron E1705
    CPU
    2.00 gigahertz Intel Core 2 Duo 64 kilobyte primary memory
    Motherboard
    Board: Dell Inc. 0YD479 Bus Clock: 166 megahertz
    Memory
    2046 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM) [Di
    Sound Card
    SigmaTel High Definition Audio CODEC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor (17.2"vis)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 pixels
    Hard Drives
    Hitachi HTS541616J9SA00 [Hard drive] (160.04 GB) -- drive 0, s/n SB2411SJGLLRMB, rev SB4OC74P, SMART Status: Healthy
    Case
    Chassis Serial Number: 5YK95C1
    Keyboard
    Standard PS/2 Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech HID-compliant Cordless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    1958 Kbps download ; 754.8 Kbps upload
    Other Info
    Optiarc DVD+-RW AD-5540A ATA Device [CD-ROM drive]

    Dell AIO Printer A940

    Conexant HDA D110 MDC V.92 Modem

    6TO4 Adapter
    Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller
    Broadcom 802.11n Network Adapter
    Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
    Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

    Router Linksys / WRT54G -01
I'm sorry i never replied before, i totally forgot.

Defraggler seemed to do the trick. Thanks to everybody for the help.

I'll try the scan for corruption just to make sure...
 

My Computer

Im glad that the suggestion of Defraggler solved your problem. I knew about it, since it has come to the rescue many times.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell XPS420
    Memory
    6 gig
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Radeon HD3650 256 MB
    Sound Card
    Intergrated 7.1 Channel Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Dell SP2009W 20 inch Flat Panel w Webcam
    Hard Drives
    640 gb
    Cooling
    Fan
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Dell USB 4 button optical
    Other Info
    DSL provided by ATT
Defragmentation can be affected by corruption. While using a different defragmenter is a perfectly valid solution (and perhaps even a better solution since some, I too like and use Defraggler, are better than the one that comes with Vista), the one with Vista still should work properly and changing programs doesn't address the reason Vista's program isn't working properly. Let's check and try to repair any corruption on your hard drive.

Go to Start / All Programs / Accessories / Command prompt and right click on command prompt and click run as Administrator.

Type sfc /scannow and enter and let it run. It will scan and try to fix some of your system files. Hopefully it will complete with no corruption it could not repair (if there is such corruption post back here or try to analyze it to find the problem file(s) using http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928228. Try to attach the report (you may need to copy it to your desktop before it will permit you to attach it) here so we can see if they can be repaired with good copies from the installation disk (unless there are too many).

While in Command Prompt, type chkdsk /f /r and enter and let it run. It will want to schedule itself to run at the next restart. Answer yes and then reboot to run the program. It will scan and try to fix any corruption or bad sectors on your hard drive and mostly remove that as a potential cause.


If that doesn't work, then please post any error messages from the Event Viewer concerning defragmentation (Start / Control Panel / Administrative Tools / Event Viewer). Here's how to use Event Viewer: http://www.petri.co.il/vista-event-viewer.htm. Look in the System section. If you find any, and there should be some if it is failing to complete, then click on them for more details, copy those details, and post them here as they may help us identify the cause.


These options only apply if you want to try to discover what's causing Vista's defragmentation program to fail and see if that can be repaired. If you try one of the other programs and it works and you're satisfied with it and don't really care any more about Vista's program or the cause of the problem, then you can ignore these options and just use the new program from now on - but I personally would check at least as far as I've suggested above to try to confirm that it isn't a symptom of a bigger problem. But that decision is entirely yours. If the other program works, then you have a way to defragment which was most likely the main objective of this thread and the apparent problem is resolved. You can worry about other problems if and as any appear - remembering then that this problem exists and may be related.


I hope this helps.


Good luck!

Hi Lorien.

I tried the "sfc /scannow" and "chkdsk /f /r" and both found no errors or problems at all.

Thanks for the advice :)
 

My Computer

You're quite welcome. It was my pleasure. Actually, although it didn't help find the problems with Vista's defragmentation program, I'm happy to see that you have no system file or hard drive corruption - which is a very good thing.

Hopefully you're happy with the alternative defragmentation program you chose and it's working for you.

Thanks for the feedback - it is appreciated.

Good luck and best wishes!
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inc. MP061 Inspiron E1705
    CPU
    2.00 gigahertz Intel Core 2 Duo 64 kilobyte primary memory
    Motherboard
    Board: Dell Inc. 0YD479 Bus Clock: 166 megahertz
    Memory
    2046 Megabytes Usable Installed Memory
    Graphics Card(s)
    ATI Mobility Radeon X1400 (Microsoft Corporation - WDDM) [Di
    Sound Card
    SigmaTel High Definition Audio CODEC
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Generic PnP Monitor (17.2"vis)
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1200 pixels
    Hard Drives
    Hitachi HTS541616J9SA00 [Hard drive] (160.04 GB) -- drive 0, s/n SB2411SJGLLRMB, rev SB4OC74P, SMART Status: Healthy
    Case
    Chassis Serial Number: 5YK95C1
    Keyboard
    Standard PS/2 Keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech HID-compliant Cordless Mouse
    Internet Speed
    1958 Kbps download ; 754.8 Kbps upload
    Other Info
    Optiarc DVD+-RW AD-5540A ATA Device [CD-ROM drive]

    Dell AIO Printer A940

    Conexant HDA D110 MDC V.92 Modem

    6TO4 Adapter
    Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller
    Broadcom 802.11n Network Adapter
    Microsoft ISATAP Adapter
    Teredo Tunneling Pseudo-Interface

    Router Linksys / WRT54G -01
Back
Top