Black Borders on Screen

VFN

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Let me preface this by saying that while it may not be the cause I noticed the problem after installing and playing Fallout 3 GOTY which is playing fine at the moment but which crashes with a black window on about 1/3 of the desktop screen when exiting the game.

I had a 1/4 inch or so black margin on the right of my screen and smaller ones on the top and bottom. I restored to a time before the Fallout 3 installation to no avail. I tried changing the "screen position and size" in my CCC but that didn't work completely.

I changed from the Advanced view to Basic in CCC and that lessened the right border and created one on the left side. (It seemed to center the screen somewhat I suppose.) I went back to Advanced, changed the "screen position and size" to center the screen more then changed it's size to cover the borders.

The screen is okay now I guess but obviously something is amiss. Can anyone tell me what's going on here?

Thanks

VFN
 

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Try right clicking on desktop then graphics option, then panel fit, then full screen (no border)
 

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Try right clicking on desktop then graphics option, then panel fit, then full screen (no border)

Don't have those options. Right click brings me to menu with "Personalize" which opens "Personalize Appearance and Sounds" which has options that don't lead to "panel" or "full screen."
 

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Sounds like resolution. Right click on desktop, go to resolution and adjust to wider screen
 

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Depending on the type of screen, wide versus square, a picture will not expand to occupy the entire screen, there will always be borders on the left and right.
 

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Sounds like resolution. Right click on desktop, go to resolution and adjust to wider screen

Don't have an adjust to wider screen feature. I can change the resolution but that doesn't solve the problem.
 

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    Vista Home Premium x64
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    Dell Inspiron 546
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    Sempron LE-1300
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    Samsung 32" HDTV
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    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    320GB NCQ Serial ATA (7200 RPM) w/ 16MB DataBurst Cache
I downloaded and installed the ATI CCC package that the AMD site directed and still the issue persists. I can correct the problem to an acceptable degree by fiddling with my monitor's controls but it's not a complete fix.

Is it possible that even a reinstallation of Vista wouldn't solve this problem, because at this point I see no other avenue.

Thanks.
 
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    Samsung 32" HDTV
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    1366 x 768
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    320GB NCQ Serial ATA (7200 RPM) w/ 16MB DataBurst Cache
What program are you using to look at the pictures with?
 

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The black margins are on my screen/monitor regardless of what I'm viewing; it's not a program related issue. So my desktop has the margins, when I use chrome or another browser they're there, when I play a game in full screen, watch a video, etc.
 

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    Integrated ATI Radeon HD3200
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    VIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32" HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    320GB NCQ Serial ATA (7200 RPM) w/ 16MB DataBurst Cache
So you don't get this screenScreenShot00040.jpg
 
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    1280 x 800
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    Weakest part of my computer is the graphics chipset.
    Only ever used a laptop.
    Also use USB Freeview TV Card
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    External Speakers
    Other bits a pieces as needed
I have this:

pic.jpg

I've also found the following:

The resolution that seems to eliminate the margins without using any monitor controls (though the bottom may not be entirely correct) is 1280 x 960.

At 1280 x 960 my monitor notifies me "New Mode 75 K/75 Hz For best result use 1024 x 768"

If I change back to 1024 x 768 my Hertz drops to 70 from 75, the desktop image becomes too big for my monitor and I have to change the Hertz back to 75--and the margins reappear of course.

Games at full screen still have the black margins regardless of the resolution outside the game. A change of Hertz to 75 from 60 eliminates the margins in one game but not the other. A change in resolution has no effect in either game.
 

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    Integrated ATI Radeon HD3200
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    VIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32" HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
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    320GB NCQ Serial ATA (7200 RPM) w/ 16MB DataBurst Cache
Try reinstalling your graphics driver from Device Manager
 

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    Lenovo Thinkpad T400
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    Intel Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family
    Sound Card
    Conexant 20561 SmartAudio HD
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    15 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1280 x 800
    Hard Drives
    1x 180GB Intel 530 series SSD
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    1 x 650GB Western Digital Elements 5400rpm
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    Internet Speed
    Medium for New Zealand
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    Weakest part of my computer is the graphics chipset.
    Only ever used a laptop.
    Also use USB Freeview TV Card
    Lenovo Docking Station
    External Speakers
    Other bits a pieces as needed
A new driver was installed when I upgraded my ATI CCC a day or so ago. Does that change your suggestion? If not, how should I go about reinstalling from device manager and what driver will that process install and from where?
 

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  • Operating System
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    Dell Inspiron 546
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    2GB DDR SDRAM 800MHZ-2X1GB DIM M
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    Integrated ATI Radeon HD3200
    Sound Card
    VIA High Definition Audio
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    Samsung 32" HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    320GB NCQ Serial ATA (7200 RPM) w/ 16MB DataBurst Cache
I stand corrected. Earlier I wrote the black margins of only one game was eliminated by increasing the Hertz to 75 from 60. It works for both games.
 
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System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium x64
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    Dell Inspiron 546
    CPU
    Sempron LE-1300
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    2GB DDR SDRAM 800MHZ-2X1GB DIM M
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated ATI Radeon HD3200
    Sound Card
    VIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32" HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    320GB NCQ Serial ATA (7200 RPM) w/ 16MB DataBurst Cache
If the problem came after the driver install you could try rolling back the driver in device manager.
It may be that the driver installed was not the best driver available
 

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo Thinkpad T400
    CPU
    Intel Mobile Core 2 Duo P8700 @ 2.53GHz
    Motherboard
    LENOVO 64734VM
    Memory
    2.00GB Single-Channel DDR3 @ 531MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    Intel Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family
    Sound Card
    Conexant 20561 SmartAudio HD
    Monitor(s) Displays
    15 inch
    Screen Resolution
    1280 x 800
    Hard Drives
    1x 180GB Intel 530 series SSD
    1 x 120GB Hitachi 5400rmp
    1 x 650GB Western Digital Elements 5400rpm
    1x 1Tb Western Digital Elements 5400rpm
    Internet Speed
    Medium for New Zealand
    Other Info
    Weakest part of my computer is the graphics chipset.
    Only ever used a laptop.
    Also use USB Freeview TV Card
    Lenovo Docking Station
    External Speakers
    Other bits a pieces as needed
The only driver I installed was the one in the new CCC package I installed a day or so ago to try and fix the problem.

Being I have an issue that no one really understands or knows how to remedy I suppose that leaves me with a reinstall. While I don't feel I know how that works to a competent degree (I've read and watched much about it but I still have questions) I get the feeling that even that will fail.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 546
    CPU
    Sempron LE-1300
    Memory
    2GB DDR SDRAM 800MHZ-2X1GB DIM M
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated ATI Radeon HD3200
    Sound Card
    VIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32" HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    320GB NCQ Serial ATA (7200 RPM) w/ 16MB DataBurst Cache

My Computers

System One System Two

  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro X64
    Manufacturer/Model
    Lenovo IdeaCenter K450
    CPU
    Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz, 3401 Mhz, 4 Core(s)
    Memory
    16GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750, Intel(R) HD Graphics 4600
    Sound Card
    Realtek High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 27" C27F398 Curved Monitor
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080 (HDMI)
    Hard Drives
    Samsung SSD 840 EVO 250GB
    Seagate ST2000NM001 2TB
    Seagate ST31500341AS 1.5TB
    PSU
    500W
    Keyboard
    Dell USB
    Mouse
    Lenovo USB
    Internet Speed
    50MB Down, 10MB Up
  • Operating System
    Windows 7 Pro X64
    Manufacturer/Model
    HP xw4400 Workstation
    CPU
    Intel Pentium D Dual 3.4Ghz
    Motherboard
    HP 0A68h
    Memory
    5GB
    Graphics card(s)
    ATI FireGL V3300
    Sound Card
    Realtek HD Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Acer KN242HYL 24" (KVMS)
    Screen Resolution
    1920X1080
    Hard Drives
    Seagate ST3120026As 120GB SATA (boot)
    Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB SATA
    Mouse
    Logitech via KVMS switch
    Keyboard
    Dell USB via KVMS switch
    Internet Speed
    50 Down, 10 Up
    Other Info
    Apache Web Server since 2001

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium x64
    Manufacturer/Model
    Dell Inspiron 546
    CPU
    Sempron LE-1300
    Memory
    2GB DDR SDRAM 800MHZ-2X1GB DIM M
    Graphics Card(s)
    Integrated ATI Radeon HD3200
    Sound Card
    VIA High Definition Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 32" HDTV
    Screen Resolution
    1366 x 768
    Hard Drives
    320GB NCQ Serial ATA (7200 RPM) w/ 16MB DataBurst Cache
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