Dilemma - Upgrade To 7 Or Not?

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Ex_Brit

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Dilemma - Upgrade To 7 In Order To Get 10 Free, Or Not?

With the upcoming release of Windows 10 and the fact that Microsoft are allowing free upgrades from 7 through 8.1, I'll be in a dilemma as to whether or not to upgrade as Vista still has a couple of years of extended support left.
I realize I multi-boot so already have 2 chances at it so could theoretically have all 3 boots as 10's - which I would continue to utilize as I am now, for testing different versions of security software.
I'm not a huge fan of 8/8.1 I'm afraid, despite heavy modifications to make it behave and look (mostly) like 7.
What would you do?
 
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    Win 10 Pro x64 x 2
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    Alienware ALX x58
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    Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache
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    Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366
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    1gb/s up and down
Free update for windows 7 users? I'll keep that in mind although I haven't yet tried 10. I'm afraid that I won't be of much help since I don't run windows as my base OS. I do have Vista & 7 virtual machines but I prefer/use Vista more. As for a triple boot with 7 I'd say go for it. I once had 6 versions of windows installed on 2 hard drives so it can be done. Like you I can't stand 8. I'd have to buy it and not even a free upgrade to 10 would encourage me to get it.
 

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  • Operating System
    Windows 8.1 Industry Pro x64
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    HP Pavillion Elite HPE-250f
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    Intel i7 860 Quad core 2.8 ghz
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    8 gb
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    ATI Radeon HD 5770 1 gb ram
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    Alienware 25 AW2521HF
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    1 TB x2
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    i3 9100 3.6GHz, 8M cache, 4C/4T
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    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    1 TB & 360 GB x2
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    https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/productdetailstxn/poweredge-t140?~ck=bt
Windows 10 is at least trying to reintroduce some of the things they chopped in 8/8.1. Like you I prefer Vista as. at least with my Ultimate, it has everything I need, Mail (NOT in the Cloud), Media Center, Quicklaunch, Fax and Scan, Transparency and so on. 7 lost mail and then 8 as far as I was concerned lost everything unless you were a tablet fanatic, or was prepared to spend some time doing registry hacks and installing some retro-look software. I also didn't like the fact that I could no longer see the various behind the scenes processes in action - they were/are all in that infernal Metro interface. Great if you're stupid I suppose.
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Win 10 Pro x64 x 2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware ALX x58
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache
    Motherboard
    Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366
    Memory
    24GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 4096MB
    Graphics Card(s)
    1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295 Dual Core
    Sound Card
    Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung XL2370 HD LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    2 x 500gb SATA II
    1 x 1TB SATA II
    1 external eSATA LaCie 3TB
    (Non-RAID)
    PSU
    Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU
    Case
    Unique
    Cooling
    4 case fans @ CPU water cooling.
    Internet Speed
    1gb/s up and down
I have Vista and Win 7 (different systems). I don't have a hate or anything like that for Win 7 but I find Vista much easier to configure and could care less about things like Libraries. I've read a lot about Win 10 and it looks like it might be a winner. Supposedly, it will allow more backwards compatibility to legacy programs than Win 8 does and that's important to me.
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium 64 bit SP2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Cyberpower
    CPU
    Intel Quad CPU Q6700 2.67 GHZ
    Motherboard
    NVIDIA 780i
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GTX 560 TI Twin Frozr
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster SB Audigy
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viewsonic VG2436
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung HD 105SI
    WDC WD20
    Case
    Apevia XJupiter
    Cooling
    air
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX 3200
    Mouse
    Logitech MX 600
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps
Good points, thanks.
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Win 10 Pro x64 x 2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware ALX x58
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache
    Motherboard
    Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366
    Memory
    24GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 4096MB
    Graphics Card(s)
    1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295 Dual Core
    Sound Card
    Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung XL2370 HD LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    2 x 500gb SATA II
    1 x 1TB SATA II
    1 external eSATA LaCie 3TB
    (Non-RAID)
    PSU
    Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU
    Case
    Unique
    Cooling
    4 case fans @ CPU water cooling.
    Internet Speed
    1gb/s up and down
I came here today to ask this very question.
I like using Vista but it seems everybody making accessories has moved on.

I'm trying to find a replacement mouse for my defunct touch pad.
I'm testing the Microsoft Wedge right now, which I really like the feel of in my Arthritic hands, but their website doesn't have any downloads for a Vista set-up.

What is this free upgrade?
Does it mean I lose all my programs again? (I just did a System Recovery for the fourth time last week)
 

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  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion dv7
What is this free upgrade?
Does it mean I lose all my programs again? (I just did a System Recovery for the fourth time last week)

When Microsoft release Windows 10 RTM officially later this year, they intend to offer people with Windows 7, 8 or 8.1 systems a free upgrade.

As Vista can't be upgraded to Windows 10 anyway, I was thinking of upgrading my Vista to Windows 7 SP1 as I already have a spare Windows 7 key in my possession and the installation media etc.
In my case the only programme I would lose would be Windows Mail, which I no longer use, so that wont be a big loss.
You can check if your system is good for an upgrade by running the Windows 7 Upgrade Readiness Tool.
Link is here: Windows 7 Upgrade Advisor - Windows 7 Help Forums
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Win 10 Pro x64 x 2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware ALX x58
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache
    Motherboard
    Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366
    Memory
    24GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 4096MB
    Graphics Card(s)
    1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295 Dual Core
    Sound Card
    Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung XL2370 HD LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    2 x 500gb SATA II
    1 x 1TB SATA II
    1 external eSATA LaCie 3TB
    (Non-RAID)
    PSU
    Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU
    Case
    Unique
    Cooling
    4 case fans @ CPU water cooling.
    Internet Speed
    1gb/s up and down
For the upgrade to 10, yes, but at least there's another couple of years life left in the system.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Win 10 Pro x64 x 2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware ALX x58
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache
    Motherboard
    Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366
    Memory
    24GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 4096MB
    Graphics Card(s)
    1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295 Dual Core
    Sound Card
    Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung XL2370 HD LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    2 x 500gb SATA II
    1 x 1TB SATA II
    1 external eSATA LaCie 3TB
    (Non-RAID)
    PSU
    Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU
    Case
    Unique
    Cooling
    4 case fans @ CPU water cooling.
    Internet Speed
    1gb/s up and down
In addition, Koukol is looking at a specific type of mouse because of his arthritis. Logitech and others have more capable mice with Vista drivers.
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium 64 bit SP2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Cyberpower
    CPU
    Intel Quad CPU Q6700 2.67 GHZ
    Motherboard
    NVIDIA 780i
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GTX 560 TI Twin Frozr
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster SB Audigy
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viewsonic VG2436
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung HD 105SI
    WDC WD20
    Case
    Apevia XJupiter
    Cooling
    air
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX 3200
    Mouse
    Logitech MX 600
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps
I just bought a Logitech MX800 mouse and keyboard combo set as I have arthritis too and I need something easy to use, and that is.
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Win 10 Pro x64 x 2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware ALX x58
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache
    Motherboard
    Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366
    Memory
    24GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 4096MB
    Graphics Card(s)
    1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295 Dual Core
    Sound Card
    Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung XL2370 HD LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    2 x 500gb SATA II
    1 x 1TB SATA II
    1 external eSATA LaCie 3TB
    (Non-RAID)
    PSU
    Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU
    Case
    Unique
    Cooling
    4 case fans @ CPU water cooling.
    Internet Speed
    1gb/s up and down
If you have a stable Vista system, I would wait for 10. There is not much to be gained if you go to 7 now.
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    Q6600
    Memory
    4GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP w2207h
    Hard Drives
    2x250GB HDDs
    1x60GB OCZ SSD
    6 external disks 60 to 640GBs
    Other Info
    Also 1xHP desktop, 1xHP laptop, 1xGateway laptop
Ex_Brit- excellent information. Maybe it will help Koukol. I was looking at the Logitech Marthon mouse and the thing I liked about it the most is that it says it will go 3 years on a set of batteries. My old Logitech wireless mouse goes throught a set of batteries every 1-2 months. Since I don't have any significant arthritis (I'm 70), I don't know what the special needs are.

The verdict is still out on Win 10. It all depends on the characteristics of the final product and if it's legacy support is all it's cracked up to be. DOS lives in Windows to this day despite what Microsoft says.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium 64 bit SP2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Cyberpower
    CPU
    Intel Quad CPU Q6700 2.67 GHZ
    Motherboard
    NVIDIA 780i
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GTX 560 TI Twin Frozr
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster SB Audigy
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viewsonic VG2436
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung HD 105SI
    WDC WD20
    Case
    Apevia XJupiter
    Cooling
    air
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX 3200
    Mouse
    Logitech MX 600
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps
If you have a stable Vista system, I would wait for 10. There is not much to be gained if you go to 7 now.

Except I'll have to pay for 10 by then ;-)

Ex_Brit- excellent information. Maybe it will help Koukol. I was looking at the Logitech Marthon mouse and the thing I liked about it the most is that it says it will go 3 years on a set of batteries. My old Logitech wireless mouse goes throught a set of batteries every 1-2 months. Since I don't have any significant arthritis (I'm 70), I don't know what the special needs are.

The verdict is still out on Win 10. It all depends on the characteristics of the final product and if it's legacy support is all it's cracked up to be. DOS lives in Windows to this day despite what Microsoft says.

Good luck with the hunt for mouse and keyboard. I'm nearly 74 so beat you on that one...LOL
 

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System One

  • Operating System
    Win 10 Pro x64 x 2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Alienware ALX x58
    CPU
    Intel® Core™ i7-975 Extreme O/C to 4.02 GHz, 8MB Cache
    Motherboard
    Asus® P6T Deluxe V2 X58 LGA1366
    Memory
    24GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz - 6 x 4096MB
    Graphics Card(s)
    1792 MB NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 295 Dual Core
    Sound Card
    Onboard Soundmax® High-Definition 7.1 Performance Audio
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung XL2370 HD LED backlit 23" W/S 2ms response time
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    2 x 500gb SATA II
    1 x 1TB SATA II
    1 external eSATA LaCie 3TB
    (Non-RAID)
    PSU
    Alienware® 1200 Watt Multi-GPU
    Case
    Unique
    Cooling
    4 case fans @ CPU water cooling.
    Internet Speed
    1gb/s up and down

My Computer

System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    Q6600
    Memory
    4GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP w2207h
    Hard Drives
    2x250GB HDDs
    1x60GB OCZ SSD
    6 external disks 60 to 640GBs
    Other Info
    Also 1xHP desktop, 1xHP laptop, 1xGateway laptop
Ex_Brit said he has the key and software (I think retail) for Win 7.

Ex_Brit, I'm not looking for a new mouse/keyboard set. I was just referring to what I found when I was researching the mouse that Koukol referred to. I have a mx 600 mouse/keyboard combination and I'm very satisfied with it, other than the short battery life.
 

My Computer

System One

  • Operating System
    Vista Home Premium 64 bit SP2
    Manufacturer/Model
    Cyberpower
    CPU
    Intel Quad CPU Q6700 2.67 GHZ
    Motherboard
    NVIDIA 780i
    Memory
    4 GB
    Graphics Card(s)
    MSI GTX 560 TI Twin Frozr
    Sound Card
    Sound Blaster SB Audigy
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Viewsonic VG2436
    Screen Resolution
    1920x1080p
    Hard Drives
    Samsung HD 105SI
    WDC WD20
    Case
    Apevia XJupiter
    Cooling
    air
    Keyboard
    Logitech MX 3200
    Mouse
    Logitech MX 600
    Internet Speed
    30 Mbps
Well, if he has the key, then it is a no-brainer.
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    Q6600
    Memory
    4GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP w2207h
    Hard Drives
    2x250GB HDDs
    1x60GB OCZ SSD
    6 external disks 60 to 640GBs
    Other Info
    Also 1xHP desktop, 1xHP laptop, 1xGateway laptop
I always use a wired keyboard because all my keyboards are backlit and would use a lot of batteries. For mices I prefer the trackball kind. That is more relaxing for the hand. For that I change the battery twice per year.
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    Dell
    CPU
    Q6600
    Memory
    4GB
    Monitor(s) Displays
    HP w2207h
    Hard Drives
    2x250GB HDDs
    1x60GB OCZ SSD
    6 external disks 60 to 640GBs
    Other Info
    Also 1xHP desktop, 1xHP laptop, 1xGateway laptop
Thanks for the input, guys.
I found a good, cheap mouse today (Logitech mini mouse)
It will work on any surface so I can even rest my elbow on a pillow and use it on my stomach (I couch surf)

So...this updating...is updating from Vista to 7 free and recommended?
 
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  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion dv7
I always use a wired keyboard because all my keyboards are backlit and would use a lot of batteries. For mices I prefer the trackball kind. That is more relaxing for the hand. For that I change the battery twice per year.



That was the first mouse I tried on my journey but my thumb is partially dislocated and discovered the mouse aggravated it.
 

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System One

  • Manufacturer/Model
    HP Pavilion dv7
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