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Vista Ultimate64
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Guys,
I hear you can choose to play games in either dx9 or dx10 when you right click on shortcut and select it from the menu. When i do this for instance i dont see the option available, once i saw with crysis launching analysis then it went away. How come some people have this option available. im using vista 64 with 8800 GTX Thanks |
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The Contemplator
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Vista Home Premium 32bit SP1
Posts: 316
Location: Doncaster, UK
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Hi raks,
The reason why you can't see this option is probably down to your graphics card. As far as I am aware, only the 9XXX series and above cards manufactured by nVidia support DX10 natively in hardware (I don't know what the situation is with ATI). At the moment, I am currently using a 7600GT, but am considering upgrading it to a 9-series card in the future. Dwarf |
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Maniac
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Vista Ultimate x64
Posts: 86
Location: Jacksonville, Florida, USA
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The 8800 GTX is a DirectX 10 card. All nvidia 8 series or higher are considered DirectX 10 parts. In fact the 8800 GTX is faster (in some benchmarks and resolutions) running Crysis than the 9800 GTX due to it's greater memory bandwidth (brute force). The 9800 GTX is faster is shader intensive games (brain power) than the 8800 GTX.
If you have loaded the latest Crysis patch (1.2), I would download the latest beta driver for your 8800 GTX, which will be the 174.74 and see if that helps. That driver runs the 1.2 patch fine for me (I have an 8800 GTX as well). The 169.25 had problems with it. If that fails, just double click the icon in games explorer or right click on it and click play. Go to advanced graphics options in Crysis and if you can select anything 'Very High' then you are running in DirectX 10. |
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Banned
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Vista Ultimate
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Are you sure about running the 174.74 driver for the 9000 series on the 8800? The nVidia site shows the 169.25 (Dec 07) as the latest driver for the 8800GTX.
EDIT: LOL or is that why you keep calling it a beta driver? Because it's made for the 9800 series and using it for the 8800 series is the "test" or beta part now? |
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Maniac
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Vista Ultimate x64
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Location: Jacksonville, Florida, USA
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It's the latest and greatest beta for the 8800 but I cannot wait to get back to the WHQL drivers, believe me. |
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Member
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Vista Ultimate64
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Guys,
Thanks for replys, I can play in dx9 by doing as you suggested, using game explorer, clicking on crysis and selecting dx9. However when i try dx10 the screen flashes black for a second and then its back to desktop. I using 174.74, why will it play dx9 and not dx10 and yes im on patch 1.2. Also when i play in dx9 i dont think i select very high only high, i know i can play games in dx10 cos Bioshock allows me in the graphic options to select dx10 and it looks great. Should i install driver 174.93 beta. i will try tonight to just select play and try the graphic settings to very high to see if its in dx10. what do you all think. In dx9 it plays awesome, smooth as silk and looks great. I wonder what it be like in dx10 when i have the following. AMD64 6400+ 3.2Ghz Black Edition am2 ASUS Crosshair 590SLI am2 8gb PC2-8500 dual channel 1066mhz BFG Ageia PhysX card X-FI Gamer Fatality Pro 64mb x-ram BFG OC2 8800 GTX Thanks all. |
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Maniac
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Vista Ultimate x64
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Location: Jacksonville, Florida, USA
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Are you using an LCD? Is your vsync on? If not, turn it on and try it. Then check to see if you have the nvidia Network Access Manager installed. If you do, uninstall it. It won't mess up your network settings. I've seen that cause the black screen and crash error when using directX 10. |
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Member
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Vista Ultimate64
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Ive tried it with v-sync on, still dont work, and when i installed my network drivers i made sure network manager was not installed cos its crap.
At the moment im using 28" widescreen phillips television cos i have no room for a monitor, wierd thing is my monitor driver is television i could set it back to pnp monitor driver. One thing i hate is that the nv drivers on vista64 wont let me allow to set my refresh rate at any settings, im stuck at 25hz, on xp used to desktop and game at 119hz which is so much better. I might do a dual boot with XP, only thing is my 8gb ram wont be fully used unlike vista64 what do you all think ? is there any way to get the game working in dx10 and set higher refresh rate, any programs out there. |
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Banned
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Vista Ultimate
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Rak,
First understand that I am a clueless newbie who is just barely starting to learn about this stuff. that being said I'll tell you what has worked for me in Crysis. When i first installed it I just left clicked the icon in the games menu. I set my my video display to very high enabled anti aliasing and did not do video sync. I played for a couple, three hours and the screen started going crazy (vertical lines looking like static, i forget the technical term but there is one lol.) I shut got out of the game. I don't remember if I rebooted or not. There is a similar thread to this one here and i read it and the rightclick DX10 stuff and all that other junk. Next time I tried to play i right clicked and selected DX10. The game load in the upper left of my screen and wouldn't let me select anything beyond the first tier of selections, and to do even that i had to have my mouse pointer two boxes below the box I was trying to select before it would light up. I couldn't even quit without ending the program in task manager. I tried that a few times, no love. So next I clicked on saves. It opened up with the "open with" screen. Secur64 something or the other came up with that and I accidentally hit yes and the game started again. That worked....... for a while then it started locking up dragging ect...... same ole stuff. (oh, somewhere in there I selected optimal settings for the video as well). I I then went to the DX10 website, downloaded the latest DX10 and updates and installed them. Back to the DX10 right clickie thing, the saved agme open with thing, then the DX9 thing, the left clickie thing on and on. No love. I decided that i had started in DX9 by default so trying to run in dx10 hosed everything up. (that was a wild assed guess, not a decision based on facts or knowledge.) So I uninstalled Symantek and Crysis and re installed Crysis and the patches. I rebooted after the install and after installing every update. I doubt it made a differrence, but it made me feel like I was doing something lol. I disabled anti aliasing and enabled Vsynch. I used the optimal settings. I started the game this time using rightclick/dx10. It worked....... for a while. I got to about the same point in the game and it crashed. Progress this time however. Instead of locking the computer up, I was able to Ctrl Alt Del my way to task manager and end the now not responding program. (I'm still waiting for windows to get back to me for the solution like the dialog box said lol). Turns out one of my automatic updates had tried to kick off while i had the game on pause causing all hell to break loose. Good, still some progress I'm thinking, turn of the event scheduler...... Hex had already told me to hold off on installing the second update, but I had already intalled both it and the third so I was (am) experimenting with it in. I went to MSconfig and turned off all the nVidia services except for the drivers and media library. I don't know what the Media Library is so I left it on, maybe Hex will read this and tell us. I turned off the event scheduler both in the user and the system section. I turned a few other things off as well. Rebooted. Tried to start in DX10 mode. Left corner thing. Tried to start a saved game using right click open thing. No good. Started regular. No problem. Learned how to check my FPS rate in game. When I opened that up it also displayed that I was playing in the DX10 64 bit version, so that question was answered as well. I played after that for about 6 hours with only a couple minor glitches. Each time I was able CTRL ALT DEL my way out. Each time I left clicked the saved game I wanted and was mostly able to play. One time I did it and the saved game immediately froze. When I loaded the game right before it everything was fine. I don't think I am "fixed", but I am operational at least. One thing i did notice however. I have a G15 keyboard that has an LED, each time it froze, or before it froze, I would see my CPU and RAM displayed on the keyboard LED, The CPU usage was always over 50% and the RAM usage was over 60%. Considering i have 8G of RAM as well as 2 G of ram onboard with the vid cards, that is a lot of RAM and tells me something is going on that shouldn't be. LOL I just don't have the knowledge to even begin to guess what though. I hope you can find something out of all that to try. My system is a new build so I don't have anything valuable on it. If anything goes really haywire I can always format disk and start all over again. LOL Maybe that gives me a tendency to be more agressive in trying things than I should be, but it is also allowing me to learn faster I think. BTW if anyone made it this far into this LONG post: I found out how to show my FPS ingame: ~ r_displayinfo=1 How do I turn it off though? |
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Senior Member
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vista home premium 32 bit
Posts: 225
Location: Maine, USA
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Hi Bubba,
I'd guess, and it is just a guess, that if displayinfo=1 is display then displayinfo=0 is don't display. Just a guess, but if your into experimenting ![]() Gary |
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