Vista - Which is a better one?

I thought it was obvious, but for those who missed it....the 4890

But I'll have to admit that I've never had an Nvidia card (or product).

Nvidia is a good product but the 4890 is better.

i agree the 4890 will dominate..........
and if you have a crossfire capable board...... two of them will really run the crap out of everything you throw at it

You cannot just curse ATI with your 9 yrs old experience. I have been using ATI on my desktop and laptop and its giving me an amazing gaming performance.

Huh...where's the curse?

Please re-read my post.

Thank you.

......please point out the text which states ATI cards dont ''perform'' well..??


ALL are entitled to their opinions, i can only report on my experience & the experience of others on H/W forums...

& the information i gave is in fact correct..... ATI have great cards, lets not beat around the bush, but they're not as refined as Nvidia..... as a long time user of both GPU manufacturers, & a long time reader in GPU development & performance, i can safely stand by my statements....

if you can get a 4890 to idle @ 40c with the stock cooler, running 25% fanspeed.... then i will reconsider the heat issue.... the same goes for ALL HD3xxx & HD4xxx series cards... they're VERY hot!!

now, build quality.... 2 of my ATI cards coolers have basically been loose on the PCB (the introduction of XFX may fix this), & putting an ATI card in your rig without cutting yourself is a pretty hard thing to do .... they're just jagged & thrown together (hence the lower price), but they do perform for the most part...

im no NV fanboy, but i say what i see.....




SK

Skunksamsh - not to get in the middle here but why not, you never smashed on ATI at all, i personally love ATI cards in my opinion the out preform what they are rated at, just like kenwood car audio does.

i have ran both Nvidia and ATI cards, and personally the ATI cards have more options available than Nvidia and are more easily configurable, but it has been awhile since i have had a Nvidia card so that could have changed.

my mobo is actually a Nvidia chipset with the onboard video being a 8200 with 512mb, but i am running a ATI video card as i already had it and it is 1GB.

they both do the same but i prefer ATI.

there is my 2 cents.

peace out peps.

I'll reiterate what I said earlier, then leave this debate as is. In my nine years of using ATI cards, I've only had one instance of a video card going bad due to heating issues. I think that's pretty good, especially since I kept an X800Pro running for better than 3 years.

ATI cards I’ve owned include a 8500LE, 8500, 9700Pro, AIW 9800Pro, X1300Pro, X800, X1650Pro 3870, 4850, 4890

Out of all those cards only the 3870 crapped out on me. That's pretty good in my book and I'm just calling it the way I see it as well

I've never owned any Nvidia products so I can't speak of their quality.

Oh, and Nvidia isn't exactly blowing ATI away in the cooling department either - ATI Radeon HD 4890 vs. Nvidia GeForce GTX 275 - TechSpot

Peace

besides.... as far as cooling.... you could add some watercooling to your cpu and gpu

i have a ''powercolor X800GTO'', what a great card...., i can happily play COD4 all day long on it at med setting with very respectable framerates.....


& these 55nm GT200 cards are not as good as the 65nm counterparts, even though the architecture is more efficient, they shrunk the coolers, removed the RAM heat sink from the rear of the card (back plate), & i believe the 65nm cards were 10 or 12 phase PCB's as apposed to the 8 phase PCB on the 55nm... (this is not gospel, but i do know the PCB differs so please check this for yourselves)

but i could pick holes in anything given enough time......lol

i must say though XFX's move to ATI has really started to make them far more appealing, if for nothing else but the customer support....they are SUPERB!!




SK