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Old 07-12-2009   #31 (permalink)


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Re: Which is a better one?

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by amigo max View Post
I am interested in computers so i just wanted to know,
is the nvidia 295 or ati 4890 better?and by what specs.
your 600 watter won't run a 295 , if that helps

-the 295 is a 2 gpu card , like CF\SLI but on one card and is the fastest one slot card at this time. so it's more than just bench marks.


-the 295 should be 50-70% faster = more fps,over a 4890 given equal tasks and driver surport
-295 is 2x 275's at lower clocks on one card
-4890 = 275 depending on the game , cpu ,settings
-2x 4890[cf] would be better, than a 295 , 4890 has more memory.
-2x 275[sli] would be better than a single 295 if the board can do sli

-better = cooler , overclock's higher , if the game does not have multi gpu ,the one card will run faster , no custom drivers , if one craps out you can still have a working machine ,

my .02

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Old 07-12-2009   #32 (permalink)


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Re: Which is a better one?

Uh...that 600 watt PS will run a single 295!!!

UNTAMED, Please show proof that a 600 Watt PS won't run a single 295!

Instead of just making up stuff let's just sick with the facts, whether Nvidia of ATI.

Thanks
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Old 07-12-2009   #33 (permalink)


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Re: Which is a better one?

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by UNTAMED View Post
Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by amigo max View Post
I am interested in computers so i just wanted to know,
is the nvidia 295 or ati 4890 better?and by what specs.
your 600 watter won't run a 295 , if that helps

-the 295 is a 2 gpu card , like CF\SLI but on one card and is the fastest one slot card at this time. so it's more than just bench marks.


-the 295 should be 50-70% faster = more fps,over a 4890 given equal tasks and driver surport
-295 is 2x 275's at lower clocks on one card
-4890 = 275 depending on the game , cpu ,settings
-2x 4890[cf] would be better, than a 295 , 4890 has more memory.
-2x 275[sli] would be better than a single 295 if the board can do sli

-better = cooler , overclock's higher , if the game does not have multi gpu ,the one card will run faster , no custom drivers , if one craps out you can still have a working machine ,

my .02
umm..... no actually the 4890 is the fastest single gpu core..... not the core of the 295
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Old 07-13-2009   #34 (permalink)


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Re: Which is a better one?

Hi guys,

I've built, re-built, transformed and destroy computers all my life and tried hundreds of different graphic cards in thousands of computers and toay, I'm married to nVidia and using the MSI flavored GTX 295. I am surprised on how good it is and what a great body they did to it. temperature is not an issue and trully, only one of them is more than enough for today games. I play Grid, WoW, Dirt, Crisys and some other hi-end graphic games with all or at least most of the video options at max and the result is way more than enough (never below the 30 and up to 140 fps in every game). I know ATI has a great product too in the latest cards no doubt about that but IMHO, nVidia is the way to go. I don't know.. it just feel right. Every time I've used ATI in the past, I ended selling the cards to my friends after a couple of weeks. I just didn't like them for myself.

BTW you need a 750W peek PSU for a single gtx 295 but a 850W is recommended. If you can, and have the motherboard for that, buy a 1000W so you are ready for a second video card in the future (1200W if you a running more that 7 coolers and 4 HDDs).

Cheers,
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Old 07-13-2009   #35 (permalink)


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Re: Which is a better one?

hm....................... i'd say just get two 4890's and crossfire and about a 600 watt psu
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Old 07-13-2009   #36 (permalink)


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Re: Which is a better one?

i would go with the ATI cards also.
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Old 07-13-2009   #37 (permalink)


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Re: Which is a better one?

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
Uh...that 600 watt PS will run a single 295!!!

UNTAMED, Please show proof that a 600 Watt PS won't run a single 295!

Instead of just making up stuff let's just sick with the facts, whether Nvidia of ATI.

Thanks
----see the second post below yours as I run 2 gtx 285's I might have a informed insight,
---google is a good start before you call someone out.

-back to the real hardware sites , too many kids here .
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Old 07-13-2009   #38 (permalink)


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Re: Which is a better one?

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by UNTAMED View Post
Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by sygnus21 View Post
Uh...that 600 watt PS will run a single 295!!!

UNTAMED, Please show proof that a 600 Watt PS won't run a single 295!

Instead of just making up stuff let's just sick with the facts, whether Nvidia of ATI.

Thanks
----see the second post below yours as I run 2 gtx 285's I might have a informed insight,

---google is a good start before you call someone out.

-back to the real hardware sites , too many kids here .
That's not an adequate comparison since we'll talking about a single GPU!

It's also a good place to prove your point as well!!!

My point - even though Nvidia "officially" recommemds a 680 Watt Power Supply (GeForce GTX 295), tests show that a "single" GTX295 GPU comsumes less then 470 watts under full load. In fact it shows that it consumes less than a 4870x2.

BFG GTX 295 Review: Dual-GPU showdown - Page 14 - Power Consumption & Conclusion
bit-tech.net | Review - Nvidia GeForce GTX 295 1,792MB & Quad SLI
PC Perspective - BFG GeForce GTX 295 1796MB and Quad SLI Review

You can't come in here and make up stuff and expect not to be challenged.

Peace
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Old 07-13-2009   #39 (permalink)


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Re: Which is a better one?

No one's mentioning how many amps have to be on the 12v rail?
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Old 07-14-2009   #40 (permalink)


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Re: Which is a better one?

Quote  Quote: Originally Posted by dbsantos77 View Post
No one's mentioning how many amps have to be on the 12v rail?
According to this article in one of my links - BFG GTX 295 Review: Dual-GPU showdown - Page 14 - Power Consumption & Conclusion

Quote:

BFG states the minimum power requirements as a 680W PSU that has a combined 12V current rating of 46A or more.
But, again, reports have shown that a single 295 draws less then 480 watts under full load. Haven't seen what the amp loads are though.

Incidentally my little ole Antec Neo HE 550 watt Power Supply meets that amp rating.

antec-550-amp-rating.jpg

Antec NeoPower 550 Power Supply Review | Hardware Secrets

Last edited by sygnus21; 07-14-2009 at 01:09 AM..
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