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Old 05-02-2008   #1
John
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File Privacy

I can't seem to find any information about our privacy anywhere on the
FolderShare website or in the privacy policy. My question is simply put: If
we use FolderShare, is any information about our files and filesystem stored
anywhere on Microsoft servers, or is it entirely dependent on the machines
being actively connected with the client to access that information? I really
like this service and it is incredibly useful, but I don't know how I'd feel
about Microsoft having a listing of every single file stored on my computers.
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Old 05-02-2008   #2
Richi Jennings
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Re: File Privacy

John wrote:
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> I don't know how I'd feel about Microsoft having a listing of
> every single file stored on my computers.
I'd say you'd better figure out how you feel about it!

A reasonable assumption is that Microsoft stores file metadata for all
shared files -- at a minimum file names, paths, and a hashed summary of
the contents (but not the contents themselves).

My assumption is based on observing how FS behaves when changes are
pending, but the "donor" PC isn't connected.


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Old 05-02-2008   #3
John
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Re: File Privacy

"Richi Jennings" wrote:
Quote:

> I'd say you'd better figure out how you feel about it!
Well I'm pretty sure that I wouldnt be too happy about Microsoft storing a
complete file listing on their end. If that were the case I would not use the
service.
Quote:

> A reasonable assumption is that Microsoft stores file metadata for all
> shared files -- at a minimum file names, paths, and a hashed summary of
> the contents (but not the contents themselves).
>
> My assumption is based on observing how FS behaves when changes are
> pending, but the "donor" PC isn't connected.
Obviously they would need that much information, but it would be simple
enough to have it only available when the PC is connected to the system. For
the sake of user-defined shared and private libraries, clearly information
about those files needs to be stored on the servers in order to maintain sync
information between multiple computers. But those libraries are voluntarily
set up and configured by the user, and they can select which folders and
files to put in the libraries. The part that worries me is the fact that when
one of my computers is connected, from the web interface I can browse *every
single* file and folder and drive on that computer, and it would definitely
bother me if THAT information is saved on the Microsoft servers.
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Old 05-05-2008   #4
Ankur
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Re: File Privacy

A complete file listing.... you mean just a dump of the DIR command?
Who cares if anyone has the file names and file sizes of your stuff?

The service itself is pretty secure. And they offer an encrypted file
transfer.
As far as I can tell all the file transferring is done peer to peer.
Because when my laptop is on the same network as my network, the file
transfer speeds jump up to 4-5megabytes (not bits) per second.... while
across the internet they are about 70-80kbytes per second (max of my
upload)....

"John" wrote:
Quote:

> "Richi Jennings" wrote:
Quote:

> > I'd say you'd better figure out how you feel about it!
>
> Well I'm pretty sure that I wouldnt be too happy about Microsoft storing a
> complete file listing on their end. If that were the case I would not use the
> service.
>
Quote:

> > A reasonable assumption is that Microsoft stores file metadata for all
> > shared files -- at a minimum file names, paths, and a hashed summary of
> > the contents (but not the contents themselves).
> >
> > My assumption is based on observing how FS behaves when changes are
> > pending, but the "donor" PC isn't connected.
>
> Obviously they would need that much information, but it would be simple
> enough to have it only available when the PC is connected to the system. For
> the sake of user-defined shared and private libraries, clearly information
> about those files needs to be stored on the servers in order to maintain sync
> information between multiple computers. But those libraries are voluntarily
> set up and configured by the user, and they can select which folders and
> files to put in the libraries. The part that worries me is the fact that when
> one of my computers is connected, from the web interface I can browse *every
> single* file and folder and drive on that computer, and it would definitely
> bother me if THAT information is saved on the Microsoft servers.
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Old 05-06-2008   #5
Francisco Garcia-Ascanio [MSFT]
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Re: File Privacy

Hi John,

The ability to remotely access your computer from the web is a feature that
you can turn off. To turn remote access

off, please follow these steps:

1) In the notification area on the taskbar, click the FolderShare beta icon
, point to More, and then click Settings.
2) Click the Transfers tab, and then clear the Allow web downloads from this
computer check box.
3) Click OK.

Also, for more information about Microsoft's privacy policy please refer to
the following page:

http://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/default.aspx

Thanks,
Francisco

--
Francisco Garcia-Ascanio
Program Manager
Windows Live FolderShare

"Ankur" <Ankur@xxxxxx> wrote in message
news:096D338E-8287-4A2F-86CD-EADFA5A03F30@xxxxxx
Quote:

> A complete file listing.... you mean just a dump of the DIR command?
> Who cares if anyone has the file names and file sizes of your stuff?
>
> The service itself is pretty secure. And they offer an encrypted file
> transfer.
> As far as I can tell all the file transferring is done peer to peer.
> Because when my laptop is on the same network as my network, the file
> transfer speeds jump up to 4-5megabytes (not bits) per second.... while
> across the internet they are about 70-80kbytes per second (max of my
> upload)....
>
> "John" wrote:
>
Quote:

>> "Richi Jennings" wrote:
Quote:

>> > I'd say you'd better figure out how you feel about it!
>>
>> Well I'm pretty sure that I wouldnt be too happy about Microsoft storing
>> a
>> complete file listing on their end. If that were the case I would not use
>> the
>> service.
>>
Quote:

>> > A reasonable assumption is that Microsoft stores file metadata for all
>> > shared files -- at a minimum file names, paths, and a hashed summary of
>> > the contents (but not the contents themselves).
>> >
>> > My assumption is based on observing how FS behaves when changes are
>> > pending, but the "donor" PC isn't connected.
>>
>> Obviously they would need that much information, but it would be simple
>> enough to have it only available when the PC is connected to the system.
>> For
>> the sake of user-defined shared and private libraries, clearly
>> information
>> about those files needs to be stored on the servers in order to maintain
>> sync
>> information between multiple computers. But those libraries are
>> voluntarily
>> set up and configured by the user, and they can select which folders and
>> files to put in the libraries. The part that worries me is the fact that
>> when
>> one of my computers is connected, from the web interface I can browse
>> *every
>> single* file and folder and drive on that computer, and it would
>> definitely
>> bother me if THAT information is saved on the Microsoft servers.
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